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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 11:22:38 GMT
Whilst it is worth keeping things in perspective.
UK annual average cancer deaths are not 'significantly' higher than UK deaths within 28 days of being tested positive for Covid over the last year. Yes cancer deaths are higher but not in the range of suicide v road deaths.
Statistics never tell the full story though...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 11:32:46 GMT
A couple of billion quid and a year later, they develop a vaccine for COVID. Several trillion quid into cancer research over many years, and very little to show for it. Of course there has been inroads with some positive results, but I still smell a rat somewhere.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 18, 2021 11:45:11 GMT
If you add up all the people who did not die due to vaccinations against many many diseases, I suspect it would dwarf all the other figures.
so the effect of reducing the death toll from one individually might not be of significance in the grand scheme of things .... but cumulatively
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Post by JohnV on Mar 18, 2021 11:53:09 GMT
A couple of billion quid and a year later, they develop a vaccine for COVID. Several trillion quid into cancer research over many years, and very little to show for it. Of course there has been inroads with some positive results, but I still smell a rat somewhere. not really ...... there are many cancers of umpteen different types with many causes (and many with unknown causes) just sorting out what causes them is a very tough nut to crack and even when you have found the "what" you still probably don't know the "why" .... let alone how you counter or cure it
(and I am only still alive because they have some treatments, even if they might have life changing side effects)
a single virus is so much simpler, especially as the idea of how to produce a vaccination against a virus of this general type was the result of many years of research into Ebola, SARS and MERS.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 12:49:27 GMT
.... there are many cancers of umpteen different types Funny how everybody on Thunderboat is still alive after a year of this nonsense. I've died numerous times over the past year!
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 18, 2021 13:31:49 GMT
It's nice to see some moderation in language. The left/ liberals/ the ultra cautious used to describe anyone who didn't leap with joy at the prospect of accepting a vaccine that had been developed in double quick time as 'antivaxer'. Typical of these groups, they chose a term with negative connotations without understanding, or taking into account, the many and sometimes complex reasons why people felt this way.
These groups have now changed their language. Through their mouthpiece, the BBC, they now talk of those who are 'vaccine hesitant'.
Is this a hint of real progress from these groups rather than the usual condemnation of those who think differently to them? Have they perhaps realised that progress can be made in many ways, that just because they describe themselves as 'progressive', it's rather arrogant to assume that all of their views are naturally superior to the views of others?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 18, 2021 13:37:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 15:15:19 GMT
Someone I work with has had some side effects, eyesight has gone wonky big time, docs have said five weeks to sort itself out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 15:24:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 16:32:10 GMT
As clear as mud then...
The European Union's medicines agency has said the Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine is "safe and effective" to use following an investigation into reports of blood clots in a small number of recipients.
The EMA said the benefits outweigh the risks - and the vaccine is not linked to an "overall risk" of blood clots.
However, the agency's safety committee has also said it can't rule out a potential link with a "small number of cases" of a rare clotting disorder occurring after the vaccination.
"As of now, we do not know whether some or all of the conditions have been caused by the vaccine or by other coincidental factors," said Hans Kluge, the WHO's European director.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 17:21:31 GMT
That's as cheap as my mirror flip. Perhaps you are saving up for your coffin? There there.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 18, 2021 17:34:21 GMT
Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting vaccinated:
●”If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?”
Government: “NO”
●”If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to work like normal?
Government: “NO”
●”If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?”
Government: “Maybe. We don’t know exactly, but probably not.”
●”If I get vaccinated, at least I won’t be contagious to others – right?”
Government: “NO. the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission.”
●”If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?”
Government: “No one knows. All Covid “vaccines” are still in the experimental stage.”
● “If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?”
Government: “NO”
● “If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug each other again?”
Government: “NO”
● “So what’s the benefit of getting vaccinated?”
Government: “Hoping that the virus won’t kill you.”
●”Are you sure the vaccine won’t injure or kill me?”
Government: “NO”
●”If statistically the virus won’t kill me (99.7% survival rate), why should I get vaccinated?”
Government: “To protect others.”
●”So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in contact with?”
Government: “NO”
● “If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long-term effects (still unknown) or die from the vaccine will I (or my family) be compensated from the vaccine manufacture or the Government?”
Government: “NO – the government and vaccine manufacturer’s have 100% zero liability regarding this experimental drug”
So to summarize, the Covid19 “vaccine”…
Does not provide immunity
Does not eliminate the virus
Does not prevent death
Does not guarantee you won’t get it
Does not stop you from passing it on to others
Does not eliminate the need for travel bans
Does not eliminate the need for business closures
Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 17:42:12 GMT
High in humour content, which is I assume what you intended (if original) ... but not in truth.
But accepting the vaccine is optional, so feel free.
Rog
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 17:45:04 GMT
High in humour content, which is I assume what you intended (if original) ... but not in truth. But accepting the vaccine is optional, so feel free. Rog Now that is funny!
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Post by quaysider on Mar 18, 2021 18:02:17 GMT
I was hoping they'd get to my age group before we leave next week... - what with all the stuff being spouted today about delays in India, it doesn't look like it will be until I'm playing up and down Llangollen so that will be interesting to travel for... especially with guests aboard - knowing my luck, its pretty much a given I'll end up with the AZ one and have no choice other than to "host" and skipper during the off day... hey ho.
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