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Post by jubjub on Mar 14, 2021 13:08:08 GMT
Got some outside areas to maintain mainly the cratch and taff seats. I have used Olwatrol in the past but it fades fairly quickly so looking at other options. Is it better to use a combination varnish/stain or separate stain then yacht varnish. Please keep on topic taπ
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 13:10:54 GMT
Got some outside areas to maintain mainly the cratch and taff seats. I have used Olwatrol in the past but it fades fairly quickly so looking at other options. Is it better to use a combination varnish/stain or separate stain then yacht varnish. Please keep on topic taπ What is your profile picture of?
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Post by JohnV on Mar 14, 2021 13:14:59 GMT
Always believed stain/varnish gave the best results but is seems to be getting very hard to buy decent stain nowadays, they all seem to be "environmentally friendly" water based crap
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Post by jubjub on Mar 14, 2021 13:21:32 GMT
Got some outside areas to maintain mainly the cratch and taff seats. I have used Olwatrol in the past but it fades fairly quickly so looking at other options. Is it better to use a combination varnish/stain or separate stain then yacht varnish. Please keep on topic taπ What is your profile picture of?
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Post by jubjub on Mar 14, 2021 13:22:20 GMT
Er.., a fallen angel??? What's that got to do with varnish tho?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 13:28:25 GMT
Sadolin Extra The front doors at our house and on the boat are done with it, needs a couple or three coats and takes forever to dry when its cold, but is the best I have found recently. Β£38 for 2.5L so not cheap either Oh I forgot the Verandah and greenhouse are done with it as well.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 14, 2021 13:32:57 GMT
I must admit I am not a good person to answer about shiny external woodwork ..... internally yes but externally I am a great believer in an easy life .... so my wheelhouse doors are Iroko and are simply given a good soaking in a colourless wood preservative every now and then and allowed to weather. My forward doors are a mahogany type wood of unknown species as they are made from reclaimed cut down doors, they were simply given a good coating of Sadolin woodstain as is the central hatch. .... alll purely for keeping it looking reasonable and low(ish) maintenance
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Post by JohnV on Mar 14, 2021 13:33:31 GMT
Ha .... beaten to it !!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 13:39:27 GMT
The only varnish worth a damn is that based on tung oil. One good brand is Rustin's Yacht Varnish. Tung oil can be bought neat from some places and used directly but if you apply it on things outside it needs renewing fairly often (like all oils). The advantage is it doesn't need much preparation (unlike weathered varnish). The modern polyurethane crap is maybe ok for indoors but is worse than useless outside.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 18:56:36 GMT
Sadolin as @loddon mentioned Tung oil based varnish as mentioned by @nemesis over the top of the sadolin Specifically this one. www.letonkinoisvarnish.co.uk/Awesome stuff, I did our cockpit with it, came up an absolute treat - faffer likes it too π
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Post by mouse on Mar 14, 2021 22:43:10 GMT
Always believed stain/varnish gave the best results but is seems to be getting very hard to buy decent stain nowadays, they all seem to be "environmentally friendly" water based crap It is a crying shame that proper creosote is no longer available. A guy I used to know increased the effectiveness of antifoul by mixing in some roundup!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 23:05:50 GMT
Always believed stain/varnish gave the best results but is seems to be getting very hard to buy decent stain nowadays, they all seem to be "environmentally friendly" water based crap It is a crying shame that proper creosote is no longer available. A guy I used to know increased the effectiveness of antifoul by mixing in some roundup! The same person that had a different and unique colour every year - due to the fact heβd collect and mix together the scrag end tins the WAFIβS left lying around when they went back in the spring πππ»
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Post by JohnV on Mar 15, 2021 6:49:21 GMT
It is a crying shame that proper creosote is no longer available. A guy I used to know increased the effectiveness of antifoul by mixing in some roundup! The same person that had a different and unique colour every year - due to the fact heβd collect and mix together the scrag end tins the WAFIβS left lying around when they went back in the spring πππ» Shapfells antifoul is a mixture of shades ..... strangely, it just looks like the colours from the last couple of customers boats in the drydock
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Post by quaysider on Mar 15, 2021 7:41:28 GMT
I hate varnishing - mainly cause by the time you slap it on, it's too late to correct any of the imperfections you didn't spot during the sanding process... it amplifies them and makes you cross with yourself for not going the extra mile with the wet and dry (mainly thinking back to fairground times tbh) - we restored a set of Jets for Dreamland in Margate and using 1200 wet and dry on each of the beautifully decorated cars took an age... looking terrible until the application of the craftmaster high gloss - which instantly made them pretty again but also highlighted the areas I'd taken a little less care over.
I've decided this coming winter, rather than sand and varnish the side hatches, they are going to become grey for the rest of their lives.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 13:59:15 GMT
I hate varnishing - mainly cause by the time you slap it on, it's too late to correct any of the imperfections you didn't spot during the sanding process... it amplifies them and makes you cross with yourself for not going the extra mile with the wet and dry (mainly thinking back to fairground times tbh) - we restored a set of Jets for Dreamland in Margate and using 1200 wet and dry on each of the beautifully decorated cars took an age... looking terrible until the application of the craftmaster high gloss - which instantly made them pretty again but also highlighted the areas I'd taken a little less care over. I've decided this coming winter, rather than sand and varnish the side hatches, they are going to become grey for the rest of their lives. A couple of points about Sadolin - it has partial staining properties so it covers some sins but it is translucent so some blemishes will show through. The good thing is I've never seen it blister and peel (which isn't to say it won't) and just needs a swipe with wire wool and white spirit to prepare it for an overcoat.
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