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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 23:08:14 GMT
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Post by quaysider on Mar 16, 2021 6:23:36 GMT
Yeah I took that survey yesterday and was kind of "they're trying to make me feel irresponsible for not having water sprayers throughout the boat". I do hope nothing more comes of it. Co and smoke alarms are one thing, but sprinkler systems are a step too far for a narrowboat.
Mind you - it did reference Gas sniffer alarms too which I suppose I could do easily enough - that said, I do check the bubble tester twice a week when tied up and every other day whilst moving (when I go in the locker for the water hose) so do I really need one?
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Post by JohnV on Mar 16, 2021 6:27:33 GMT
Isn't it always the same f***ing Empire Building twats
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 9:14:46 GMT
Yeah I took that survey yesterday and was kind of "they're trying to make me feel irresponsible for not having water sprayers throughout the boat". I do hope nothing more comes of it. Co and smoke alarms are one thing, but sprinkler systems are a step too far for a narrowboat. Mind you - it did reference Gas sniffer alarms too which I suppose I could do easily enough - that said, I do check the bubble tester twice a week when tied up and every other day whilst moving (when I go in the locker for the water hose) so do I really need one? I’ve got a gas sniffer, it was one of the most expensive on the market. I turned it off after a week, because it kept going off. I was convinced I had a gas leak and tore the place apart. Eventually, I discovered it was an aerosol can of furniture polish setting the bloody thing off. Waste of money.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 9:15:57 GMT
Isn't it always the same f***ing Empire Building twats Yes. I’m going to email bss later and tell them just that.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 16, 2021 9:45:17 GMT
Things like this explain why so many people are poor in this country. All new regulations make what they relate to more expensive. Folk sat in offices dreaming up new regulations in order to justify why they are there are expensive, as are the bods who wander around in high viz clutching clipboards to check that the minions are complying.
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Post by patty on Mar 16, 2021 9:58:09 GMT
Things like this explain why so many people are poor in this country. All new regulations make what they relate to more expensive. Folk sat in offices dreaming up new regulations in order to justify why they are there are expensive, as are the bods who wander around in high viz clutching clipboards to check that the minions are complying. Saw a high viz this am ..goodness knows what his purpose was with black face mask covering most of his face and head gear covering just about the rest...dunno how he could see to cross a road let alone be a jobsworthy member of any workforce.....
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Post by kris on Mar 16, 2021 10:06:27 GMT
It all makes sense when you remember that the bss was the beginning of removing “undesirable’” boats from the waterways. A mission that is on going.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 10:07:26 GMT
I wear a Hi-Viz every day, and im skint, guess its my own fault then.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 16, 2021 10:24:46 GMT
It all makes sense when you remember that the bss was the beginning of removing “undesirable’” boats from the waterways. A mission that is on going. Yes, price all the owners who keep wood on their roofs off the canals, mission accomplished. There might be an element of this but I think the wider problem is that there's a major (and growing), expensive, totally unproductive workforce who have totally bought into the notion 'you can't put a price on lives'. Of course you can, the NHS do it all the time, they just don't publish what the figure is. This bunch have a narrow objective i.e. make everything safer with no consideration for anything else.
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Post by kris on Mar 16, 2021 10:38:51 GMT
It all makes sense when you remember that the bss was the beginning of removing “undesirable’” boats from the waterways. A mission that is on going. Yes, price all the owners who keep wood on their roofs off the canals, mission accomplished. There might be an element of this but I think the wider problem is that there's a major (and growing), expensive, totally unproductive workforce who have totally bought into the notion 'you can't put a price on lives'. Of course you can, the NHS do it all the time, they just don't publish what the figure is. This bunch have a narrow objective i.e. make everything safer with no consideration for anything else. It’s all about removing a certain element in the boating community from the water. It’s an ongoing objective of a n element of the navigation authority. They have steeped it up again and are planning a big boat cull. The bss will be used as part of this, obviously all in the name of safety. Just look in the wider society how freedoms are being removed in the name of keeping people safe. Living on boats and living in vans is becoming to popular. The new policing bill going through parliament today has a section that gives the police powers to confiscate living vechilles If the owner doesn’t have a travellers passport? What is a travellers passport? I thought all passports where issued to people who by definition want to travel. Unfortunately we live in a police state.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 10:39:28 GMT
To be fair for a moment , health and safety legislation has been a life saver and WAS desperately needed. Today I am willing to accept the good intentions behind new measures, but excess has brought some disrepute. I think a similar 'struggle for balance' occurred with trade unionism ... excellent, and long overdue in the first half of the 20th century, but as the millennium approached, struggled for 'dragons' to slay and consequently lost their way. I hope the H&S industry will too, eventually settle down and realistically focus on today's issues, not former glories Rog
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 10:48:20 GMT
To be fair for a moment , health and safety legislation has been a life saver and WAS desperately needed. Today I am willing to accept the good intentions behind new measures, but excess has brought some disrepute. I think a similar 'struggle for balance' occurred with trade unionism ... excellent, and long overdue in the first half of the 20th century, but as the millennium approached, struggled for 'dragons' to slay and consequently lost their way. I hope the H&S industry will too, eventually settle down and realistically focus on today's issues, not former glories Rog Nah, it’s just rob and a few of his mates empire building.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 16, 2021 10:51:34 GMT
To be fair for a moment , health and safety legislation has been a life saver and WAS desperately needed. Today I am willing to accept the good intentions behind new measures, but excess has brought some disrepute. I think a similar 'struggle for balance' occurred with trade unionism ... excellent, and long overdue in the first half of the 20th century, but as the millennium approached, struggled for 'dragons' to slay and consequently lost their way. I hope the H&S industry will too, eventually settle down and realistically focus on today's issues, not former glories Rog Absolutely, a balance is needed. The problem is that that balance doesn't exist. Those who create ever growing health and safety legislation often have single minded objectives. For example, traffic planners might be tasked with a percentage reduction in road deaths over a given period. It might make sense to them to spend half a million pounds upgrading traffic lights to 4 phase from 2 phase, their various formulas having showed them that this will save one person from being killed every 5 years. They will not include in their calculations the loss incurred to the economy that results from people being sat in traffic jams, nor will it calculate the reduction in people's quality of life that results. They have their budget as a constraint but otherwise, carte blanche authority to change things to suit their narrow agenda, with scant or no consideration to the many other stakeholders that are negatively affected.
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Post by Jim on Mar 16, 2021 13:04:07 GMT
I did a bit of research before getting a gas sniffer, a replacement for the one I already had (they don't like the wires reversed) found one circa £20, permanently wired. Came in from Spain, it will now be twice the price. Don't blame me.
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