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Post by JohnV on Mar 26, 2021 9:53:22 GMT
Brexit is a longer term investment for a better Britain in the future. Short term thinking is rife in the western world, it's one of the main reasons why China will be economically dominant throughout the world, if it isn't already. This ^^^ however some people only have the attention span of a goldfish and fail to understand
(and politicians usually believe there is no point in planning for 5 or more years ahead as it usually means the other party will be in power then and reap the benefits)
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 26, 2021 10:09:04 GMT
Brexit is a longer term investment for a better Britain in the future. Short term thinking is rife in the western world, it's one of the main reasons why China will be economically dominant throughout the world, if it isn't already. This ^^^ however some people only have the attention span of a goldfish and fail to understand
(and politicians usually believe there is no point in planning for 5 or more years ahead as it usually means the other party will be in power then and reap the benefits) Indeed. I'm sure most (all?) politicians enter their trade with the desire to improve the world we all live in. However, the desire to be elected overrides this ambition. It's probably more of a subconscious thing rather than deliberate; the compromising of personal beliefs in exchange for power. We shouldn't be surprised though as it's be fair to say that many (most?) politicians have large egos. An ego needs power, otherwise, it withers away.
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Post by bills on Mar 26, 2021 11:04:49 GMT
- Yes - quicker vaccinations That's not a financial benefit. In my pocket. and wasn't one of the promised benefits. Well that's a bit disingenuous. I don't think a global pandemic was anticipated at the time. The faster vaccination rate is a consequence of the ability of the UK to strike it's own deals - quickly when necessary as in this case - and that was certainly one of the promised benefits. Let me turn your question around - and this is from someone who voted to remain. Have you personally suffered any negative financial consequences since Brexit? I don't believe I have. More interestingly, and unexpectedly, neither has my brother in law. He is a single handed creel fisherman on the Isle of Lewis, who is currently getting a new boat built.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 11:19:09 GMT
- Yes - quicker vaccinations That's not a financial benefit. In my pocket. and wasn't one of the promised benefits.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 26, 2021 11:35:06 GMT
That's not a financial benefit. In my pocket. and wasn't one of the promised benefits. It's a good job the BBC aren't monitoring this site. Your flag is far too big.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 26, 2021 14:26:49 GMT
Have you personally suffered any negative financial consequences since Brexit? I don't believe I have. More interestingly, and unexpectedly, neither has my brother in law. He is a single handed creel fisherman on the Isle of Lewis, who is currently getting a new boat built. "Scottish fishing industry in ‘fits of despair’ over post-Brexit impact, says Scottish Creel Fishermen’s Federation" "I'm a trawler skipper owner based on West Coast of Scotland, I've had Latvian eu crew, as do most, for last 19 years" "There are many reasons why the Scottish mobile fleet was forced into recruiting foreign crews. On the west coast we are required by law to have eu only crew , as the majority of us fish inside 12 mile line . There's nothing cheap about having eu crew, they recieve full share wages, food and flights all paid for by boat. Locals left fishing jobs 20 years ago, to fish farms etc . The type of men we wish to attract are those with responsibilities, try getting a mortgage when your salary fluctuates the way a share fisherman's does. Good men left fishing jobs to earn less money but guaranteed money, and for better home lives etc ." This Scottish fisher person has summed it up nicely. The pay structure/ salary methodology for fisher people is out of date. Rather than moan, and expect the tax payer to give him loads of dosh perhaps he should consider paying fisher people a salary, rather than a share of the catch. He said that the local fishermen left to earn less. Well, match the lower pay they get elsewhere and if what he's saying is true, not only will he save the cost of flying fisher people from Latvia, he'll also make lots more money himself.
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Post by bills on Mar 26, 2021 15:27:55 GMT
I don't think a global pandemic was anticipated at the time. Some people have been warning for years that this, the 'Covid pandemic' was being planned. The UK government has just given a 2-year contract for Covid advertising (scaremongering!) starting April 2021. You think they are not 'anticipating' anything? When we're looking at 'Look into her eyes' ads going up to April 2023? Pointless even looking for info about the (alleged) planning of this whole affair, as so much has been censored and is actively being censored. Have you come to this conclusion on your own or are you one of David Icke's disciples?
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Post by Jim on Mar 26, 2021 17:15:34 GMT
That's not a financial benefit. In my pocket. and wasn't one of the promised benefits. Ah, the last refuge of a scoundrel. At least when it's claimed and waved to support a particular cause. That gaming ad popped up again,in conjunction with one of your posts. Just as before. You really should contact proboards if it worries you so much.
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Post by Jim on Mar 26, 2021 17:17:29 GMT
That's not a financial benefit. In my pocket. and wasn't one of the promised benefits. Well that's a bit disingenuous. I don't think a global pandemic was anticipated at the time. The faster vaccination rate is a consequence of the ability of the UK to strike it's own deals - quickly when necessary as in this case - and that was certainly one of the promised benefits. Let me turn your question around - and this is from someone who voted to remain. Have you personally suffered any negative financial consequences since Brexit? I don't believe I have. More interestingly, and unexpectedly, neither has my brother in law. He is a single handed creel fisherman on the Isle of Lewis, who is currently getting a new boat built. Yes. As has a Quitter neighbour. He doesn't like it when it's pointed out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 17:22:37 GMT
That gaming ad popped up again. Liar.....
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Post by Jim on Mar 26, 2021 17:52:17 GMT
That gaming ad popped up again. Liar..... Not at all, rather than being accused unjustly I'll get another screen grab if it happens again. Arseonanist.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 18:29:56 GMT
Liar..... Not at all, rather than being accused unjustly I'll get another screen grab if it happens again. Arseonanist. The answer is clear your cookies, check for malware and most importantly, stop perving on dodgy internet sites.
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Post by ianali on Mar 27, 2021 8:11:28 GMT
Have you come to this conclusion on your own or are you one of David Icke's disciples? "Keep calling anyone who is still capable of independent thought and has a mind of their own a "conspiracy theorist". As soon as you use that phrase you clearly have no intelligent argument. I seem to remember that we 'conspiracy theorists' predicted a year ago that they would force the vax on us all. But of course you can't wait to get pumped full of that experimental chemical brew can you?" "The Government have destroyed your life, but they want you to blame me for being sensible" There is a worrying march toward any differing opinions being jumped upon and rubbished.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 27, 2021 8:33:52 GMT
"Keep calling anyone who is still capable of independent thought and has a mind of their own a "conspiracy theorist". As soon as you use that phrase you clearly have no intelligent argument. I seem to remember that we 'conspiracy theorists' predicted a year ago that they would force the vax on us all. But of course you can't wait to get pumped full of that experimental chemical brew can you?" "The Government have destroyed your life, but they want you to blame me for being sensible" There is a worrying march toward any differing opinions being jumped upon and rubbished. Sceptisism comes with time (age). You learn to tell when a politician is lying to you (clue, they open their mouths)
When you first discover this you are inclined to follow anti-establishment groups ..... until you realise that they are also lead either by politicians under another name or outright nut jobs.
Occams razor is one good guide to a sceptics view of the world, another is that if it sounds too good to be true ..... it probably is.
Too many people either follow slavishly one group or the opposite. Far too many instantly rubbish whatever is said by an opposing group without analysis.
Listening to others views are is never a bad thing (but this does not include you Foxy, you frequently post absurdities often from unidentified sources without any filter of your own thoughts, your posts do not introduce discussion they have become just a noise, a background annoyance)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 8:48:57 GMT
In relation to this place ianali, isn't differing opinions why we all visit ? Having said that, just occasionally an opinion can be expressed that is so abhorrent I feel the urge to do more than simply ignore it for fear that silence is viewed as some kind of agreement or approval. It sometimes appears that the more extreme or ridiculous the opinion, the greater reliance is placed on claiming victimhood and self identifying as some kind of martyr for revealing 'the truth' ... the reality being far from that . Rog
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