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Post by quaysider on Apr 6, 2021 18:02:28 GMT
Well they've thrown me a bone today...
Notice Alert
Trent & Mersey Canal
Location: Bridge 200, Soot Hill, Anderton, Trent & Mersey Canal
Starts At: Bridge 200, Soot Hill
Ends At: Bridge 201
Thursday 21 January 2021 10:00 until further notice
Type: Navigation Closure
Reason: Structure failure
Update on 06/04/2021:
Starting tomorrow, our contractors will be onsite between Bridge 200, Soot Hill and Bridge 201 on the Trent & Mersey Canal to undertake works that will help us to explore ways in which we can safely allow boat movement through the affected area without destabilising the embankment, slipped material within the canal or the above gas main.
A further update will be provided by Tuesday 20 April.
I could REALLY do with this happening! - it would mean racing from Huddersfield on 21st April to get to Nantwich in time to get back on schedule but with a few long days (after doing the HNC bothways in 2 weeks) would be dooable.... just.
fingers crossed something positive can come of this ,
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 18:05:52 GMT
They are just exploring (finally) ways to reopen - I certainly wouldn't turn up on the 21st and expect to get through.
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Post by quaysider on Apr 6, 2021 18:29:09 GMT
yeah but it's progress - perhaps an admission that somewhere needs to be open given a) how long ago it happened and b) the Mac hasn't started yet either... I'll still be over week away on the 20th but surely if they look tomorrow , that would give them 3 weeks to get a pair of waders and dig out some dirt?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 18:34:18 GMT
Progress, progress.... Grrrrr... I'll await the 20th to see if they have worked out whether they need a shovel or a spade.
Edit - 'Regular monitoring surveys of the slope continue, however our geotechnical advisers confirm we cannot, at present, remove the material blocking navigation as it risks destabilising the cutting further.' 08/02/2021
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Post by quaysider on Apr 6, 2021 18:50:33 GMT
Tra-la-la, tra-la-laaaa! I'm sure everything will be fine! No need to be so negative! The sun is shining and there is beer! (I'm seeing what it's like to walk a mile in dogless's shoes) That's the most intelligent idea you've had in a long time. Keep it up - you might actually find it gives you a more calm, reasonable, informed and uplifting look on life instead of spouting your daily mail shite all the time. My natural response to any news from the powers that be is that I'll air on the side of realism... on this occasion however, it shows (finally) acceptance that SOMETHING has to be done SOMEWHERE so I'll cling to the hope of being able to get back on route ready to earn some money at some point THIS year. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 19:01:30 GMT
Tra-la-la, tra-la-laaaa! I'm sure everything will be fine! No need to be so negative! The sun is shining and there is beer! (I'm seeing what it's like to walk a mile in dogless's shoes) That's the most intelligent idea you've had in a long time. Keep it up - you might actually find it gives you a more calm, reasonable, informed and uplifting look on life instead of spouting your daily mail shite all the time. My natural response to any news from the powers that be is that I'll air on the side of realism... on this occasion however, it shows (finally) acceptance that SOMETHING has to be done SOMEWHERE so I'll cling to the hope of being able to get back on route ready to earn some money at some point THIS year. Me being the eternal optimist I’ve got everything crossed for you 🙏🤞👍🍻 You are well overdue a run of good luck 👌 |
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Apr 6, 2021 19:11:16 GMT
I do hate to be negative but.
"A couple of boaters have said that the lock at Stanthorne on the Middlewich branch is expected to fail soon as the gate is bending so much that the paddle won't move and it is pouring water through the gate."
Sorry.
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Post by quaysider on Apr 6, 2021 19:18:28 GMT
I do hate to be negative but. "A couple of boaters have said that the lock at Stanthorne on the Middlewich branch is expected to fail soon as the gate is bending so much that the paddle won't move and it is pouring water through the gate." Sorry. that's ok - we'll do heartbreak hill and go around the longer way... again like we had to the year before last. Until Audlem or hack green goes belly up again I suppose.  |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Apr 6, 2021 19:19:28 GMT
Well they've thrown me a bone today... Notice Alert Trent & Mersey Canal Location: Bridge 200, Soot Hill, Anderton, Trent & Mersey Canal Starts At: Bridge 200, Soot Hill Ends At: Bridge 201 Thursday 21 January 2021 10:00 until further notice Type: Navigation Closure Reason: Structure failure
Update on 06/04/2021:
Starting tomorrow, our contractors will be onsite between Bridge 200, Soot Hill and Bridge 201 on the Trent & Mersey Canal to undertake works that will help us to explore ways in which we can safely allow boat movement through the affected area without destabilising the embankment, slipped material within the canal or the above gas main.
It's a very long time since I last boated along that bit of the Trent & Mersey, but I reckon from the bridge numbers that this 'slip' has got to be somewhere near the footbridge along the narrower part of that wooded length, not far from Barnton Tunnel, where the ground falls away towards the road and the river (Weaver) on the inside (towpath side) and rises very steeply from the water's edge on the outside up to a road that comes very close to the canal on that side. What I can't figure out is how, or why, these so-called engineers who've been fannying about with this slip for so long think that getting enough of the slipped material out of the cut to get boats past is going to "de-stabilize" the only bit of nearby ground that could be described as an 'embankment' - or in other words, the ground that slopes away and down on the towpath side ? Has some unreported cosmic event that's reversed the normal direction of pull of the Earth's gravity in this area occurred ? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 20:24:20 GMT
Tra-la-la, tra-la-laaaa! I'm sure everything will be fine! No need to be so negative! The sun is shining and there is beer! (I'm seeing what it's like to walk a mile in dogless's shoes) I'll air on the side of realism err. Or arr if you be a pirate. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 20:40:29 GMT
We have to hope for the best, surely ... even if we fear the worst. I did wonder if C&RT would arrange a temporary passage through, perhaps single boat width, until such time as the major works can be completed. I hope so for your business quaysider ... but you'll keep punching whatever, I know  Rog |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Apr 6, 2021 21:15:55 GMT
We have to hope for the best, surely ... even if we fear the worst. I did wonder if C&RT would arrange a temporary passage through, perhaps single boat width, until such time as the major works can be completed. I hope so for your business quaysider ... but you'll keep punching whatever, I know Rog What "major works" ? There aren't any 'major works' for the navigation authority to do in relation to the canal itself, . . it's just a slip, a big one with a few trees and no doubt a good few hundred tons of soil blocking the cut, but scale aside it's no different from all the other countless numbers of slips that have been regularly blocking cuttings or wherever the land rises unusually steeply from the water's edge on the outside ever since the canals were first dug and opened. The more common minor, small scale slips were normally sorted out sufficiently to get boats by within hours of them happening, . . the bigger, more serious ones took up to a few days, depending on how far away the section dredger and piling gang were at the time. One of the main reasons for the canal still being closed to navigation where the slip has occurred is that C&RT's bad joke management don't have a clue how to go about fixing it, . . and nor do they have any of the necessary maintenance craft any more - they've been sold off on the cheap, . . or the staff to operate them - they've been got rid of because their experience and know how was a source of acute discomfort and embarrassment to the useless buggers who've been left to run the show nowadays. C&RT's so-called management also know that they can get away with doing sod all, . . every time, . . because they can rely on most of the mugs who buy boat Licences from them to tolerate being endlessly pissed about and not getting what they've paid for ! |
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Post by patty on Apr 7, 2021 6:38:58 GMT
I hope it all opens up, that CRT get their act together and employ enough suitably qualified staff to ensure that the landslide is dealt with in an efficient manner....that having finally sent contractors/engineers along they will not go down the route of waiting for reports to be assessed by multiple folk thus delaying work...
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Post by JohnV on Apr 7, 2021 7:34:46 GMT
We have to hope for the best, surely ... even if we fear the worst. I did wonder if C&RT would arrange a temporary passage through, perhaps single boat width, until such time as the major works can be completed. I hope so for your business quaysider ... but you'll keep punching whatever, I know Rog What "major works" ? There aren't any 'major works' for the navigation authority to do in relation to the canal itself, . . it's just a slip, a big one with a few trees and no doubt a good few hundred tons of soil blocking the cut, but scale aside it's no different from all the other countless numbers of slips that have been regularly blocking cuttings or wherever the land rises unusually steeply from the water's edge on the outside ever since the canals were first dug and opened. The more common minor, small scale slips were normally sorted out sufficiently to get boats by within hours of them happening, . . the bigger, more serious ones took up to a few days, depending on how far away the section dredger and piling gang were at the time. One of the main reasons for the canal still being closed to navigation where the slip has occurred is that C&RT's bad joke management don't have a clue how to go about fixing it, . . and nor do they have any of the necessary maintenance craft any more - they've been sold off on the cheap, . . or the staff to operate them - they've been got rid of because their experience and know how was a source of acute discomfort and embarrassment to the useless buggers who've been left to run the show nowadays. C&RT's so-called management also know that they can get away with doing sod all, . . every time, . . because they can rely on most of the mugs who buy boat Licences from them to tolerate being endlessly pissed about and not getting what they've paid for ! Undoubtably many of those CRT apologists who read this forum will say "Oh it's just another Tony Dunkley anti CRT rant" They shouldn't. Strip out the anger and frustration and the facts are very clear.
CRT have systematically got rid of the majority of the essential machinery and equipment and the skilled and knowledgeable persons that drove them in favour of a different form of management based on "modern" corporate methods. This has shown itself to be totally unable to run a 200 year old system successfully.
Unless the majority of boaters wake up, then in very few years there will be no canal system, just a disconnected remnant fit only for ducks and permanently moored houseboats.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 7:46:41 GMT
I bet Sustrans would love to tarmac the canal bed and make cycle megahighways.
That would be an amazing project.
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