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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 15:45:38 GMT
History repeats...
I'll leave you to continue with your 'impecable standards'.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 15:54:53 GMT
History repeats...
I'll leave you to continue with your 'impecable standards'.
Let me explain this to you simply. There are only two reasons I reply to any of your posts, one of which is when I am trying to be helpful, the other is in order to retaliate when you attack me, which can be quite frequent. Now fuck off with your victim mentality.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 15:58:22 GMT
My mum says swearing isn't amongst impicable standards...
Just saying like...
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 16:27:05 GMT
Meanwhile ... I would be intrigued to hear what Jim thinks the cause of Labour's disastrous showing is ... and more importantly how they can win back supporters. After all, one would have expected the people would be gagging for the opportunity to give the tories a bloody nose. Rog
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Post by thebfg on May 9, 2021 18:33:33 GMT
But it is inescapable that people ARE voting tory ... people who are from many generations of staunch Labour voters are voting Conservative. Rog But not here in Wales! The number of FB comments mentioning putting a red rosette on the ass of a donkey and it getting elected here are innumerable. The way the boundaries are designed means that labour is a shoo-in in the Valleys where they vote the way their grandfathers voted. They still remember the value of the unions at that time in improving their working conditions but seem to forget the role the same unions played in the demise of the same industries. These are the same voters that voted leave despite being the recipients of enormous amounts of EU funding. They also remember the role Churchill had in sending the troops in to subdue striking miners even though it was before the 2nd World War. Wales is behind in education, healthcare and has the highest poverty levels in the UK. 22 years of Labour control hasn’t changed this, I can’t believe people think doing the same thing will result in a different result. Are they sure they remember that correctly. Dident the Welsh cops beg the army to send troops, which they did. Churchill and the war minister then had a meeting and the troops were stopped at swindon. Or do they just want an excuse to hate the Torys
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Post by Clinton Cool on May 9, 2021 18:35:29 GMT
You couldn't make it up, a voter from Hartlepool, claiming that he voted Tory because of the benefits they brought to the town "They gave us 5 food banks, we wouldn't have got that from Labour". 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm not sure why you keep digging out food banks. You know that they are charities I assume? I like charities. I support some myself. I think society would be much poorer if all the great work charities do was absorbed by a bloated super state. Back to food banks: They enable people who have either mismanaged their finances or have been hit by an unexpected financial burden to eat, prevent them either starving to death or perhaps becoming criminals in order to avoid starvation. I think food banks are a good thing. I wonder what your solution is: double everyone's benefits? What happens then, if people continue to mismanage their finances, let them starve to death in order to prevent the evil of food banks?
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Post by dyertribe on May 9, 2021 18:40:36 GMT
But not here in Wales! The number of FB comments mentioning putting a red rosette on the ass of a donkey and it getting elected here are innumerable. The way the boundaries are designed means that labour is a shoo-in in the Valleys where they vote the way their grandfathers voted. They still remember the value of the unions at that time in improving their working conditions but seem to forget the role the same unions played in the demise of the same industries. These are the same voters that voted leave despite being the recipients of enormous amounts of EU funding. They also remember the role Churchill had in sending the troops in to subdue striking miners even though it was before the 2nd World War. Wales is behind in education, healthcare and has the highest poverty levels in the UK. 22 years of Labour control hasn’t changed this, I can’t believe people think doing the same thing will result in a different result. Are they sure they remember that correctly. Dident the Welsh cops beg the army to send troops, which they did. Churchill and the war minister then had a meeting and the troops were stopped at swindon. Or do they just want an excuse to hate the Torys en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonypandy_riots
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Post by Clinton Cool on May 9, 2021 18:50:52 GMT
I suspect that Labour's vote holding up in wales is mostly down to Drakeford. OK he's slightly senile and quite boring but he has a special ability, one very few socialists possess. That is, he can talk to and with and listen to folk who don't share his political views without giving the impression, through his words and/ or body language, that's he's morally superior to them. This makes it quite difficult to dislike him. Quite unlike his English counterpart, who is very easy to dislike.
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Post by Trina on May 9, 2021 20:15:19 GMT
You couldn't make it up, a voter from Hartlepool, claiming that he voted Tory because of the benefits they brought to the town "They gave us 5 food banks, we wouldn't have got that from Labour". 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm not sure why you keep digging out food banks. You know that they are charities I assume? I like charities. I support some myself. I think society would be much poorer if all the great work charities do was absorbed by a bloated super state. Back to food banks: They enable people who have either mismanaged their finances or have been hit by an unexpected financial burden to eat, prevent them either starving to death or perhaps becoming criminals in order to avoid starvation. I think food banks are a good thing. I wonder what your solution is: double everyone's benefits? What happens then, if people continue to mismanage their finances, let them starve to death in order to prevent the evil of food banks? Food banks & supplies from food banks... Before we moved from Bearwood,we had a family from Iraq move into the rental property next door.Mum said she'd worked in schools in Iraq & dad drove lorries.Dad worked long hours,they had 2 cars & apple Iphones.One day,I saw them arrive home with loads of bags from Asda.Walked up the road pm to get a local paper,as I got home-they had a food delivery from the local foodbank !Have to be honest,I said they'd been up to Asda & had loads of bags.Was told it didn't matter as they were entitled.That stinks to me,they obviously were playing the system orrrr the system was playing it for them.
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Post by Jim on May 9, 2021 21:10:58 GMT
You couldn't make it up, a voter from Hartlepool, claiming that he voted Tory because of the benefits they brought to the town "They gave us 5 food banks, we wouldn't have got that from Labour". 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm not sure why you keep digging out food banks. You know that they are charities I assume? I like charities. I support some myself. I think society would be much poorer if all the great work charities do was absorbed by a bloated super state. Back to food banks: They enable people who have either mismanaged their finances or have been hit by an unexpected financial burden to eat, prevent them either starving to death or perhaps becoming criminals in order to avoid starvation. I think food banks are a good thing. I wonder what your solution is: double everyone's benefits? What happens then, if people continue to mismanage their finances, let them starve to death in order to prevent the evil of food banks? I'm not digging out (or at) foodbanks. You have missed the irony of the situation. I'm well aware it is small charities that create and run them, out of necessity. Who has made them necessary? Who was the voter thanking for their existence?
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Post by Jim on May 9, 2021 21:12:55 GMT
I'm not sure why you keep digging out food banks. You know that they are charities I assume? I like charities. I support some myself. I think society would be much poorer if all the great work charities do was absorbed by a bloated super state. Back to food banks: They enable people who have either mismanaged their finances or have been hit by an unexpected financial burden to eat, prevent them either starving to death or perhaps becoming criminals in order to avoid starvation. I think food banks are a good thing. I wonder what your solution is: double everyone's benefits? What happens then, if people continue to mismanage their finances, let them starve to death in order to prevent the evil of food banks? Food banks & supplies from food banks... Before we moved from Bearwood,we had a family from Iraq move into the rental property next door.Mum said she'd worked in schools in Iraq & dad drove lorries.Dad worked long hours,they had 2 cars & apple Iphones.One day,I saw them arrive home with loads of bags from Asda.Walked up the road pm to get a local paper,as I got home-they had a food delivery from the local foodbank !Have to be honest,I said they'd been up to Asda & had loads of bags.Was told it didn't matter as they were entitled.That stinks to me,they obviously were playing the system orrrr the system was playing it for them. Are you saying that all beneficiaries are milking the system? Of course it is wrong that some do.
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Post by Trina on May 9, 2021 22:34:36 GMT
Nope,but there seem to be a lot who do.Saw loads when I was teaching.Even had some parents say they were partaking & then they went to the local pub(pre covid).
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Post by Trina on May 9, 2021 22:36:42 GMT
Can't believe your comment here Jim,even you must see this is wrong !
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 9, 2021 22:52:37 GMT
I'm not sure why you keep digging out food banks. You know that they are charities I assume? I like charities. I support some myself. I think society would be much poorer if all the great work charities do was absorbed by a bloated super state. Back to food banks: They enable people who have either mismanaged their finances or have been hit by an unexpected financial burden to eat, prevent them either starving to death or perhaps becoming criminals in order to avoid starvation. I think food banks are a good thing. I wonder what your solution is: double everyone's benefits? What happens then, if people continue to mismanage their finances, let them starve to death in order to prevent the evil of food banks? I'm not digging out (or at) foodbanks. You have missed the irony of the situation. I'm well aware it is small charities that create and run them, out of necessity. Who has made them necessary? Tony Blair.
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Post by patty on May 10, 2021 6:43:27 GMT
There will always be those who milk the system.. I hear accounts of a few that find loopholes and claim benefits Girl I worked with cheated the system but got caught and went to jail for scamming 25k .. I only read about it, didn't know at the time.
Its like attendance allowance.. its not means tested so even the well off can get it. Its wrong, benefits should be for those who have nothing. The disability one is harder to get and when they were changing it so many lost out who really needed help. I tried to help one man who lived on the bread line, he was very ill but his condition did not fit the criteria.
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