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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 19:07:59 GMT
This is all because of the cauliflowers.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 19:20:27 GMT
With its relevance to and connection with C&RT's well practised boat stealing scams, . . I think this material is deserving of an airing on this thread too : ___________________________________________________________________________________________ 3 hours ago on the " New Licence T&C's" thread - brummieboy said: I have just renewed my licence, but these T&C's don't come into force until June 2021, so if I disagree and tell them, will they withdraw my licence and not refund it unless I remove my boat. Would they have the (assumed) power to do so as I signed up 'bona fide' to use their terms?
I suspect these T&C's will make precious little difference to the status quo, as the usual suspects will ignore them, and as they are only supposed to be formalising existing legislation, until something gets to court, they will carry very little legal weight but will be used to bully anyone they take exception to. I still think they contain breaches of data protection legislation, and can in no way legally justify forced entry onto your boat if they choose to do so.
Maybe we should be looking to support Tony Dunkley in his actions, or some other individual who is less personally confrontational. Whilst NABO have been resistant to these T&C's, I've not seen much from IWA. NBTA seem to have been reticent to them also.
____________________________________________________________________________________________ To which I replied : Irrespective of whatever C&RT persuaded you to give your signed agreement to on some Licence Application form, a ''Licence'' is NOT a form of contract, . . NEVER has been a form of contract, . . and NEVER WILL be a form of contract. The three statutory conditions, compliance with which make the issuing of a PBL or a PBC mandatory for C&RT are set out in S.17(3) of the BW Act 1995. Continuing non-compliance, following a 28 day warning, with any or all of the above mentioned three statutory conditions are the ONLY grounds on which a PBC or a PBL may be lawfully terminated. You've indicated a preference in your above post for a less personally confrontational approach than mine to all this licence T&C's crap that C&RT are foisting on the gullible pleasure boating public, but in advocating such an approach you appear to be losing sight of the fact that ALL of this legally unenforceable extra-statutory piffle emanates from a handful of readily identifiable worthless tosspots in C&RT's Licensing and L&GS departments. The pointless waste of space C&RT employees, apart from CEO R.Parry, lurking behind all this diversionary nonsense are M. Aymes, who in any properly run organization wouldn't be entrusted with anything more onerous than emptying waste paper baskets and cleaning the bogs, . . T. Deards, nominal 'Head' of Illegal, . . and L. Barry, the glib talking Solicitor-Advocate who 'sells' all the specious pseudo-legalistic garbage to the Judiciary, . . as and when necessary. I reckon that's just about as 'personal' as things can get, . . and not only for me, but for everyone affected by the unlawful actions perpetrated in the name of the C&RT, . . but in truth originating from a small out of control rogue faction whose contempt for C&RT's 'customers' is exceeded only by its even greater contempt for the Law in general and C&RT's governing legislation in particular. You know we can read other threads yes?
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Post by TonyDunkley on May 24, 2021 19:52:11 GMT
With its relevance to and connection with C&RT's well practised boat stealing scams, . . I think this material is deserving of an airing on this thread too : ___________________________________________________________________________________________ 3 hours ago on the " New Licence T&C's" thread - brummieboy said: I have just renewed my licence, but these T&C's don't come into force until June 2021, so if I disagree and tell them, will they withdraw my licence and not refund it unless I remove my boat. Would they have the (assumed) power to do so as I signed up 'bona fide' to use their terms?
I suspect these T&C's will make precious little difference to the status quo, as the usual suspects will ignore them, and as they are only supposed to be formalising existing legislation, until something gets to court, they will carry very little legal weight but will be used to bully anyone they take exception to. I still think they contain breaches of data protection legislation, and can in no way legally justify forced entry onto your boat if they choose to do so.
Maybe we should be looking to support Tony Dunkley in his actions, or some other individual who is less personally confrontational. Whilst NABO have been resistant to these T&C's, I've not seen much from IWA. NBTA seem to have been reticent to them also.
____________________________________________________________________________________________ To which I replied : Irrespective of whatever C&RT persuaded you to give your signed agreement to on some Licence Application form, a ''Licence'' is NOT a form of contract, . . NEVER has been a form of contract, . . and NEVER WILL be a form of contract. The three statutory conditions, compliance with which make the issuing of a PBL or a PBC mandatory for C&RT are set out in S.17(3) of the BW Act 1995. Continuing non-compliance, following a 28 day warning, with any or all of the above mentioned three statutory conditions are the ONLY grounds on which a PBC or a PBL may be lawfully terminated. You've indicated a preference in your above post for a less personally confrontational approach than mine to all this licence T&C's crap that C&RT are foisting on the gullible pleasure boating public, but in advocating such an approach you appear to be losing sight of the fact that ALL of this legally unenforceable extra-statutory piffle emanates from a handful of readily identifiable worthless tosspots in C&RT's Licensing and L&GS departments. The pointless waste of space C&RT employees, apart from CEO R.Parry, lurking behind all this diversionary nonsense are M. Aymes, who in any properly run organization wouldn't be entrusted with anything more onerous than emptying waste paper baskets and cleaning the bogs, . . T. Deards, nominal 'Head' of Illegal, . . and L. Barry, the glib talking Solicitor-Advocate who 'sells' all the specious pseudo-legalistic garbage to the Judiciary, . . as and when necessary. I reckon that's just about as 'personal' as things can get, . . and not only for me, but for everyone affected by the unlawful actions perpetrated in the name of the C&RT, . . but in truth originating from a small out of control rogue faction whose contempt for C&RT's 'customers' is exceeded only by its even greater contempt for the Law in general and C&RT's governing legislation in particular. You know we can read other threads yes? I do, . . and I also know that most of the people who post on here are a fairly representative cross-section of the sort of mugs whose gullibility and reticence has led the rogue faction within the C&RT to believe that it can get away with pissing on anyone and telling them it's raining.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 19:56:01 GMT
You know we can read other threads yes? I do, . . and I also know that most of the people who post on here are a fairly representative cross-section of the sort mugs whose gullibility and reticence has led the rogue faction within the C&RT to believe that it can get away with pissing on anyone and telling them it's raining. There speaks the biggest mug on the waterways, oops, sorry, caravan park now isnβt it.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 20:06:44 GMT
You know we can read other threads yes? I do, . . and I also know that most of the people who post on here are a fairly representative cross-section of the sort mugs whose gullibility and reticence has led the rogue faction within the C&RT to believe that it can get away with pissing on anyone and telling them it's raining. I don't really understand this view. Most boat users, including a good number of contributors to this forum, take the view that one pays for ones license/certificate/registration and one goes out boating. It's a pleasurable activity. Yes there arrr certain annoying things like the awful BS scheme and the fact one has to actually pay money but these things arrr not all that arduous at the end of the day. It doesn't cost thousands of pounds a year (yet) to go boating on the canals. In fact it costs considerably less than a thousand pounds and if you have the spare time, money and are in good elf then you can just do it. Most people view this as a Good Thing even if the truth is that they are being scammed to within an inch of their lives by awful scumbags.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 20:07:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 20:11:15 GMT
Taken
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 20:13:24 GMT
My ribs ache !
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 20:26:44 GMT
What a load of bollocks this thread is turning into
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 24, 2021 20:42:15 GMT
Space reserved for future use What is this "Space reserved for future use" thing? If you want to post something in the future, you just post it in the future. You don't need to book a slot, and if we were to fast forward a month or two then this page would be so buried in the thread that no-one would see the post anyway. Why don't you just post when you have worked out what it is you want to say?
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Post by thebfg on May 24, 2021 20:47:57 GMT
Can I have this spot please?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 20:51:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 20:58:46 GMT
Social services?
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Post by TonyDunkley on May 25, 2021 0:11:31 GMT
I do, . . and I also know that most of the people who post on here are a fairly representative cross-section of the sort mugs whose gullibility and reticence has led the rogue faction within the C&RT to believe that it can get away with pissing on anyone and telling them it's raining. There speaks the biggest mug on the waterways, oops, sorry, caravan park now isnβt it. Not if you want to perpetuate your lies about me not living aboard "Halcyon Daze" and not being unlawfully evicted from it. Making snide remarks about my living in a caravan "now" is synonymous with admitting that you know I wasn't living anywhere other than onboard the boat before it was unlawfully seized, . . you can't have it both ways. In future you may find it better to engage drive to the sick feeble mind before operating the big stupid mouth !
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 4:02:16 GMT
Someone sitting there mate
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