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Post by patty on Jun 15, 2021 10:00:54 GMT
I don't read the Daily Mail.. surely if we are short of fruit pickers and cannot get our normal workforce its time that the vast army of unemployed were put to use
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 15, 2021 10:41:24 GMT
I don't read the Daily Mail.. surely if we are short of fruit pickers and cannot get our normal workforce its time that the vast army of unemployed were put to use I would guess that unemployment tends more to be an inner-city phenomenon whereas agriculture by its very nature is a rural activity. Fruit and vegetable harvesting- and I have done my share of it in the past- is also really a young person's activity, I doubt that many of us on this forum would be able to do it nowadays.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jun 15, 2021 11:56:07 GMT
Jim may be along shortly. There may be confusion: it's good that poorer people may be able to earn higher wages but we left the EU, that's bad, and his strawberries will cost more, also bad.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 15, 2021 12:10:53 GMT
Jim may be along shortly. There may be confusion: it's good that poorer people may be able to earn higher wages but we left the EU, that's bad, and his strawberries will cost more, also bad. The New Labour that Jim supports does not welcome higher wages for indigenous working-class people, in fact New Labour despises the working class, which is why Tony Blair flooded the labour market with eastern Europeans in the first place when virtually every other eu country put in place a seven-year embargo on eastern Europeans working in existing eu countries. As for whether fruit pickers earn the kind of money quoted, I don't know. In road transport, another part of the economy in which pay was stagnated by EE immigration for many years there is definitely a strong uptick in wages just in the last few months, a poster on TruckNet reported today that his employer has made two substantial pay increases in the last two months, another posted that a Lincolnshire haulier lost 75 drivers within a fortnight of the IR35 changes coming into force.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 12:11:18 GMT
I don't read the Daily Mail.. surely if we are short of fruit pickers and cannot get our normal workforce its time that the vast army of unemployed were put to use I would guess that unemployment tends more to be an inner-city phenomenon whereas agriculture by its very nature is a rural activity. Fruit and vegetable harvesting- and I have done my share of it in the past- is also really a young person's activity, I doubt that many of us on this forum would be able to do it nowadays. I struggle to put my socks on without sitting down.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jun 15, 2021 12:13:29 GMT
Jim may be along shortly. There may be confusion: it's good that poorer people may be able to earn higher wages but we left the EU, that's bad, and his strawberries will cost more, also bad. The New Labour that Jim supports does not welcome higher wages for indigenous working-class people, in fact New Labour despises the working class, which is why Tony Blair flooded the labour market with eastern Europeans in the first place when virtually every other eu country put in place a seven-year embargo on eastern Europeans working in existing eu countries. As for whether fruit pickers earn the kind of money quoted, I don't know. In road transport, another part of the economy in which pay was stagnated by EE immigration for many years there is definitely a strong uptick in wages just in the last few months, a poster on TruckNet reported today that his employer has made two substantial pay increases in the last two months, another posted that a Lincolnshire haulier lost 75 drivers within a fortnight of the IR35 changes coming into force. It's for Jim, wanted to keep it nice and simple.
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Post by Jim on Jun 15, 2021 17:59:05 GMT
Jim may be along shortly. There may be confusion: it's good that poorer people may be able to earn higher wages but we left the EU, that's bad, and his strawberries will cost more, also bad. I grow my own, thanks. Veg too. Pay myself £40 per hour to pick them. I'm descended from migrants as well, so I'm a hard worker.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 15, 2021 18:53:02 GMT
It all just seems to be getting better by the day. Hoorah for Brexit I say and I'm sure Jim will join me. "David Lunt, MD of the National Buying Consortium, which represents independent wholesalers in the FMCG market, said food shortages were worsening by the day with EU suppliers hit by the reluctance of European drivers to deliver to the UK post Brexit and by the UK driver shortage. He said a major bottled water supplier to the UK currently has stock held up in Amsterdam because of the lack of European drivers willing to take on the work. He also told of a major 3PL which had informed a large confectionery manufacturer this week that it can only deliver three customer orders a day, down from around 50 orders a day, due to driver and warehouse operative shortages. He added that the NBC was told this week by a major dairy goods producer that it has stopped taking orders this week because it has run out of stock. “We have five orders outstanding and now they are saying that they cannot fulfil those orders til the end of June. The stock is there but they cannot get it out of the warehouses. This sort of thing is a major blow to businesses,” said Lunt. He added that the shortage of both drivers and warehouse operatives, post Brexit was also driving up wage inflation with reports of drivers commanding £700 a day for their services and warehouse operatives walking out, lured by higher wages at other facilities. He echoed Selley’s call for urgent action from the government, warning that without action “the knock on effect for consumers will be prices rises this year. This is already having an impact and can only get worse.”
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 15, 2021 19:36:34 GMT
I think we are heading for a period of high inflation. I also think that no UK shopper would agree that inflation is running at 1.5%, the ONS inflation figure is arrived at by analysis of items that people rarely if ever buy, and which are by their nature prone to cost reductions over time. In other words the figures are completely fiddled.
(Example, DVD players are invented and cost £300. They are included in the basket. Over the course of 7-8 years they fall in price to £30. These steady falls in cost offset things people actually buy- bread, milk etc. So inflation is low. When they reach £30 they are removed from the basket and replaced by Blu-Ray players which cost £300. Then rinse and repeat).
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Post by Telemachus on Jun 15, 2021 20:35:12 GMT
He said a major bottled water supplier to the UK currently has stock held up in Amsterdam because of the lack of European drivers willing to take on the work. OMG a shortage of bottled water imported from the Netherlands!!! How will we cope!!!!!!!
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 15, 2021 21:25:20 GMT
He said a major bottled water supplier to the UK currently has stock held up in Amsterdam because of the lack of European drivers willing to take on the work. OMG a shortage of bottled water imported from the Netherlands!!! How will we cope!!!!!!! Well, I never drink bottled water myself and I'm fully aware of the fact that "Evian" is "Naïve" spelled backwards. But I'm quite happy to shift this shit if someone pays me to, and obviously the more they pay me to do it, the better my truck/ boat life balance becomes. So Hoorah for Brexit!
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Post by Jim on Jun 16, 2021 8:55:36 GMT
It all just seems to be getting better by the day. Hoorah for Brexit I say and I'm sure Jim will join me. "David Lunt, MD of the National Buying Consortium, which represents independent wholesalers in the FMCG market, said food shortages were worsening by the day with EU suppliers hit by the reluctance of European drivers to deliver to the UK post Brexit and by the UK driver shortage. He said a major bottled water supplier to the UK currently has stock held up in Amsterdam because of the lack of European drivers willing to take on the work. He also told of a major 3PL which had informed a large confectionery manufacturer this week that it can only deliver three customer orders a day, down from around 50 orders a day, due to driver and warehouse operative shortages. He added that the NBC was told this week by a major dairy goods producer that it has stopped taking orders this week because it has run out of stock. “We have five orders outstanding and now they are saying that they cannot fulfil those orders til the end of June. The stock is there but they cannot get it out of the warehouses. This sort of thing is a major blow to businesses,” said Lunt. He added that the shortage of both drivers and warehouse operatives, post Brexit was also driving up wage inflation with reports of drivers commanding £700 a day for their services and warehouse operatives walking out, lured by higher wages at other facilities. He echoed Selley’s call for urgent action from the government, warning that without action “the knock on effect for consumers will be prices rises this year. This is already having an impact and can only get worse.” Well, let's look on the bright side, Pensions are index linked with a triple lock. Way hay! Inflation? Get my money in the bank quick. Bugger the poor sods that have to work for a living.
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Post by ianali on Jun 16, 2021 11:00:58 GMT
It all just seems to be getting better by the day. Hoorah for Brexit I say and I'm sure Jim will join me. "David Lunt, MD of the National Buying Consortium, which represents independent wholesalers in the FMCG market, said food shortages were worsening by the day with EU suppliers hit by the reluctance of European drivers to deliver to the UK post Brexit and by the UK driver shortage. He said a major bottled water supplier to the UK currently has stock held up in Amsterdam because of the lack of European drivers willing to take on the work. He also told of a major 3PL which had informed a large confectionery manufacturer this week that it can only deliver three customer orders a day, down from around 50 orders a day, due to driver and warehouse operative shortages. He added that the NBC was told this week by a major dairy goods producer that it has stopped taking orders this week because it has run out of stock. “We have five orders outstanding and now they are saying that they cannot fulfil those orders til the end of June. The stock is there but they cannot get it out of the warehouses. This sort of thing is a major blow to businesses,” said Lunt. He added that the shortage of both drivers and warehouse operatives, post Brexit was also driving up wage inflation with reports of drivers commanding £700 a day for their services and warehouse operatives walking out, lured by higher wages at other facilities. He echoed Selley’s call for urgent action from the government, warning that without action “the knock on effect for consumers will be prices rises this year. This is already having an impact and can only get worse.” Well, let's look on the bright side, Pensions are index linked with a triple lock. Way hay! Inflation? Get my money in the bank quick. Bugger the poor sods that have to work for a living. I wonder whether the triple lock might go at some point? Probably in a few years just before I’m due mine. I am evermore amazed at just how much money, the governments of the richer countries, can lay there hands on. I never used to believe in the magic money tree, but I am beginning to wonder if it actually does exist. I know many will tell me a economic collapse is just around the corner. Never seems to quite happen though.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 16, 2021 11:05:38 GMT
He said a major bottled water supplier to the UK currently has stock held up in Amsterdam because of the lack of European drivers willing to take on the work. OMG a shortage of bottled water imported from the Netherlands!!! How will we cope!!!!!!! That's crazy .... there's loads of water to bottle in Peckham
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Post by Jim on Jun 16, 2021 12:34:12 GMT
OMG a shortage of bottled water imported from the Netherlands!!! How will we cope!!!!!!! That's crazy .... there's loads of water to bottle in Peckham Corporation Pop is almost free. Tastes fine here. No plastic to clutter the environment with.
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