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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 27, 2021 10:39:59 GMT
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jun 27, 2021 11:11:09 GMT
Best thing about that clip is how the commentators manage to carry on, rather than falling around laughing.
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Post by thebfg on Jun 27, 2021 12:15:33 GMT
In Hull they are spending a fortune on new cyclepaths and often the new ones are coned off with "pin" cones from the rest of the carriageway they reduce the width of the "motorists" bit of the road .... not pavements !!! (and still the tossers ride on the road bit) There is quite a row going on about it on local radio ..... it doesn't help that Hull has a massive traffic problem anyway. Every route East to West in Hull has a lift or swing bridge, as a result, depending on tides and river traffic, things can get a bit fraught Incidentally on the route I am talking about if they were doing 30mph it wouldn't be a problem as a lot of the road is 30mph but many of them are not !!! It's a bugger of a road as regards traffic with a lot of lorries some with trailers and in the mornings it can be a nightmare, just one inconsiderate cyclist can jam the whole route up I was quite clear on the use of segregated paths designated for cyclists. The majority of cycling provisions I cannot use, with a kiddie trailer(that I don't use now) or on my trike as they are simply too wide. I can't negotiate obstacles that are in the way, so should I be fined for being on the road? Down here they are doing a great job and have some fantastic examples of segregated lanes. You wouldn't believe the amount of people that say they aren't used. One route next to where I worked was used by 100's daily but that didn't fit in with their anti cyclist agenda. Shared use paths should be outlawed unless they allow the full width cycle lanes need. Let's not start on the stupid bike lanes that they paint on the road. They will start to use proper facilities but you will always get one, but that doesn't mean drivers should put his life at risk to teach him/her a lesson.
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Post by thebfg on Jun 27, 2021 12:18:48 GMT
Unfortunately most of these cycle lanes are just pavements designed for pedestrians with a bit of white paint. There are blind access to driveways, signs, bus stops millions of side roads all being a danger to cyclists and other users. You shouldn't cycle above 15 mph on a pavement so that rules put many cyclists. We should be more tolerant of all road users. No car driver has any more right to be on the road than a cyclist. Cyclists gets shouted at for cycling on the pavement because its a danger to pedestrians, council stick shared use sign up and now they get shouted to get on the pavements. How is it any safer for the pedestrians. Shared use paths are for children or the unconfident. A cyclist riding at 30 mph should never be on a shared use path. Just let them be add a few seconds to your journey and let everyone get home safe. P.s I know there are some fantastic segregated cycle lanes which are amazing and of someone chooses to ignore it they probably have an entitlement issue. I think we have done this before - the bit of road I’m on about had a death on it a few years ago - while the car driver was found guilty of causing the cyclists death, the cyclist wouldn’t have been dead if they were on the cycle path. When I first had my motorbike at 16 years old both mouse and his mate Captain Birdseye gave me some sage advice - it’s no use being Dead, Right? being in the right but 6’ under is the ultimate way of making a pointless point! I'll just point out that if the driver was driving to a proper standard the cyclist wouldn't be dead either. Cuts both ways. And he wasn't because he would have been prosecuted otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2021 12:26:04 GMT
I think we have done this before - the bit of road I’m on about had a death on it a few years ago - while the car driver was found guilty of causing the cyclists death, the cyclist wouldn’t have been dead if they were on the cycle path. When I first had my motorbike at 16 years old both mouse and his mate Captain Birdseye gave me some sage advice - it’s no use being Dead, Right? being in the right but 6’ under is the ultimate way of making a pointless point! I'll just point out that if the driver was driving to a proper standard the cyclist wouldn't be dead either. Cuts both ways. And he wasn't because he would have been prosecuted otherwise. Agreed, but it’s an irrefutable fact that the cyclist would still be here if they were not in harms way, by no means am I excusing the driver, but as I said, being Dead Right sucks. - in this case it was two females
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Post by thebfg on Jun 27, 2021 12:27:47 GMT
Let's just stop for a minute, do you actually think anyone should be fined for not using this shared use cycle path? There is some middle ground.
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Post by thebfg on Jun 27, 2021 12:30:18 GMT
I'll just point out that if the driver was driving to a proper standard the cyclist wouldn't be dead either. Cuts both ways. And he wasn't because he would have been prosecuted otherwise. Agreed, but it’s an irrefutable fact that the cyclist would still be here if they were not in harms way, by no means am I excusing the driver, but as I said, being Dead Right sucks. - in this case it was two females the same irrefutable fact also remains that if she drove to the correct standard. The cyclist would also be alive. To think the victim was cycling there because its their right is victim blaming. They might have not used a cycle lane for many reasons which we will never know.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2021 12:31:55 GMT
Pussies. Real spectators push their luck to the limit....
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Post by thebfg on Jun 27, 2021 12:45:01 GMT
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Post by thebfg on Jun 27, 2021 12:49:45 GMT
I'm planning a nice long distance ride soon. Probably the king Alfred way but I may do something like the K&A or even do a loop like the Oxford canal and GU and back up to Oxford.
I suppose I'll get full support for using the cycle lanes , as the towpaths are shared use paths.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2021 15:03:00 GMT
It's perfectly true that cycle paths and shared pavements are fine for children and other slow users, they would be no use for cyclists training, fast food deliveries, or commuting, just too slow. I was walking on a fairly narrow pavement today, two lads [16-18] were using it, illegally of course, and were on 'wrong side', aparently they could not move on to the road. Why they thought it was a good idea to use the pavement, I have no idea, I held my line, and they had to slow right down so increasing journey time. I used to commute to work, avoiding dual carriageways, but if I had to use a busy road, I did not kerb creep, but kept out of the way of broken glass and drains, and used several gadgets to keep motorists at bay. Not sure what the answer is, but responsible cyclists should not be 'herded' on to unsuitable routes. The sign that makes me most annoyes is the one which says 'cyclists dismount' at the end of the 'designated' cycle path. The sign should say 'end of cyclepath' With so many people now getting fast food delivered by bike, it's the roads that need to be re designed and drivers re educated.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2021 15:07:32 GMT
Bikes are a perfect example of the total dysfunction of humans.
While being the second best transport system ever devised (boats being the first) people on bikes do nothing but annoy others.
They just don't mix properly with the way modern humans behave. It won't work.
Obviously it's cars which are the elephant in the room but while there is so much money in cars and one of the on paper richest people on the planet is a car salesman it's not going to change anytime soon is it.
The answer is to blah blah blah and blah blah blah.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2021 15:07:53 GMT
I'm with you bro ! The sooner my KFC arrives safely the better!
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Post by faffer on Jun 27, 2021 19:05:15 GMT
I dont know why the cyclist deaths have gone up. maybe just because its an excuse for folk to get out and exercise. They cant drive a car so on a bike god help them.
As always i see it as common sense, you dont use it then its at your risk. All road users are cocks at times, more than ever nowadays. Although the majority of cyclists are just idiots. light jumping, pavement jumping, i see so many recently going down the road the wrong way for some reason.
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Post by Trina on Jun 27, 2021 20:37:20 GMT
I do get pissed off with sick lists riding on pavements.It.Is.Not.Legal. Walking round a corner in Bearwood a few years ago,I got hit by a pavement sick list-a policeman(real one not a plastic one).Told copper exactly what I thought & that he was illegal on a pavement.His reply was a very limp that the roads were too dangerous.Luckily,just a few bruises for me but I wasn't best pleased.😡
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