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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 2, 2021 21:03:29 GMT
If I was going to attack Nick, I would aim for the head. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2021 21:05:20 GMT
Bought one of these a few weeks back, specifically to record any incidents. It sits prominently on the bow when cruising, and records both video and sound. It's more a deterrent i hope, given its visibility.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 2, 2021 21:10:43 GMT
I would have done if I thought he’d done it deliberately, but I think it was just a “swatting away” gesture and he hadn’t really considered that he had his windlass in his hand. In other words, I don’t think he intended to hit me with his windlass, it was an accident brought on by the heat of the moment. Anyway, the police have more important stuff to worry about. And I am such a nice chap! You said you were chasing him trying to get a photo and 'in his face' so you can hardly now accuse the poor chap of 'assault'. "As I approached him again and pulled my phone out, he turned away and there followed a somewhat comical attempt for me to take a photo of his face whilst he was ducking and weaving at avoid being photographed. Ok maybe I “got in his face” a bit but anyway, having got a bit too close he swiped at me with his windlass and hit me on the shoulder with it. I was not impressed, but I had the photo anyway." Well, at least you weren't trying to get a photo of him driving at speed in a Parisian underpass. Yes I was chasing him a bit, but a valid reaction to being chased for an identifying photo isn’t to lash out with a windlass. That is an assault and is illegal. There have been plenty of prosecutions of people who have physically assaulted the paparazzi even if they were being a pain and in someone’s face, but the bottom line is that if you are in a public place you can legitimately be photographed.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 2, 2021 21:11:50 GMT
I want to see the Go-Pro video of the event, speeded up with Benny Hill music. I’m sure you do, but unfortunately it doesn’t exist. Although maybe I could deepfake it?
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 2, 2021 21:12:30 GMT
If I was going to attack Nick, I would aim for the head. Like shooting fish in a barrel. He couldn’t reach that high.
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Post by brummieboy on Jul 2, 2021 21:21:20 GMT
I had a similar disagreement a couple of years back at Wilmcote. This time the pounds were low, and a volockie had started to bring up another boat whilst there was a boat in the pound below my lock. That boat went aground, and I refused to come out until the boat was up and I could stay afloat passing the grounded boat (a hire boat). I was told if I had come out then there would have been another lock of water, but pointed out that that that would have then disappeared as soon as the next boat up took it. The only way at flights with short pounds is to cross empty pounds, but you see it so often at Wilmcote, Audlem, Atherstone and Napton, when a little forethought would make life easier. I once suggested to a hire boat in front of me going down Napton that he might wait in the lock till the 'up' boat came out and got an obscene tirade from him, he walked off to the pub leaving his wife a frail mother in law to carry on unaided.
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Post by kris on Jul 2, 2021 21:29:18 GMT
even a swatting away motion is unacceptable. One man's swatting away is another nan's GBH with intent. exactly
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 2, 2021 21:37:06 GMT
but the bottom line is that if you are in a public place you can legitimately be photographed. Is the canal towpath a public place? I know what you mean, but harassment also comes into the picture. Yes the canal towpath is a public place. I think trying to identify a member of an organisation who has just been gratuitously rude to you, for the purposes of making a complaint, can’t really be described as “harassment”. Indeed it seems the paparazzi can seriously harass celebrities in a public place and there not much the celebrity can do. Certainly physically assaulting the photographer isn’t on the cards.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 0:00:43 GMT
No sympathy for the volockie here but...a public place perhaps but he doesn't have to stand still...
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 3, 2021 8:12:31 GMT
Somewhat shocked at being assaulted by a volocky’s windlass (even though to be honest I don’t think it was entirely intentional) I phoned CRT and told my tale. I was called back by a nice guy from Hatton who took notes, was sympathetic and apologetic and said that volockies should of course be wearing name badges. But anyway, he seemed to know who I was talking about and promised to ”have a word”. I forbore to mention that really I should call the police and report an assault. Bottom line of what this was all about was that the Volocky wanted to be in control, and when I refused to be controlled by him for no good reason other than he wanted to tell me what to do and waste time just for the sake of it, it all escalated and ended up with him hitting me with his windlass. Having been the centre of attention of four of Nottinghamshire's thickest on 22 October last - at the behest of C&RT, whose bogus 'Bailiffs' I had just lawfully ejected from my home aboard "Halcyon Daze" - I think, at the very least, this C&RT volunteer merits rather more than "a word" from those responsible for presence and his conduct. Had the roles been reversed, and especially had this git not clouted you with his windlass, . . YOU could now be in the position of being under threat of having your boat licence revoked and your boat seized, . . under C&RT's new, and even more unlawful than before, boat Licence T&C's !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 8:18:26 GMT
Talk about how the tale grew in the telling. Blimey.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 8:47:52 GMT
The T&C which says you have to do what any tom dick or little Hitler tells you is subject to their demands being reasonable.
What annoys me most about this is the lack of identification. It could be any random nutter who manages to get hold of a CRT t shirt. I have a CRT t shirt found in a bin.
They should have shoulder stripes and serial numbers on them if they are going to be ordering people about.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 3, 2021 9:05:33 GMT
Talk about how the tale grew in the telling. Blimey. . . . only for those unable - ie. too simple-minded - to take everything in the first time round.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 9:22:43 GMT
You sound more and more ridiculous every time. Poor old Tony.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 9:26:02 GMT
In fairness, even taking all possible interpretations from Telemachus 's account, nothing much happened. He was irritated at being forcibly instructed/ordered about, by a volunteer, but chose rightly to carry on as he wished. The matter was then escalated slightly as a result of Telemachus seeking to photograph the volunteer. I fully understand the irritation, but I think the correct response was to do what he did initially i.e. ignore and carry on working HIS boat through HIS lock and let it go. Two occasions in two years (?) of being dissatisfied with a volunteer's bossyness isn't so bad considering how many volunteers must have been encountered in that period. Rog
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