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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 16, 2021 11:53:25 GMT
OK I need to anchor my kayak in the estuary while I'm fishing. I've got some 8mm rope and a nice little 1.5KG folding anchor, plus chain, arrived they morning. The current can be strong, getting up to 4 knots during spring tides although I wouldn't anchor in such fast water. Still, I'll need to anchor it from the bow.
The kayak is only 9ft, space is at a premium. I can't easily (and safely) reach the short painter rope at the bow.
I'm trying to think up a suitable anchoring system. The obvious way to do this is to attach a lazy line to the main anchor line. There's a cleat close to hand to which I could attach the loose end of the lazy line. The problem I envisage with this is that it would be impossible to alter the length of the anchor line. The estuary varies in depth. I may wish to anchor in 25ft of water, or 3ft.
My other idea is to increase the length of the painter rope, making it long enough to come to hand. Attach a carbiner to the loose end. The anchor line could go through the carbiner. I could then let out a suitable length of line and attach it to the cleat close to hand. Then (I think?) the tide would be tensioned to the bow. When I retrieve the anchor the length of the painter should enable it to come to hand, to be stored in the space behind me.
Any thoughts? any better ideas?
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Post by JohnV on Jul 16, 2021 12:06:37 GMT
Just a quick think ....... could you mount like a crutch on the bow that the anchor line runs through but is deep enough so it wont jump out. Tie a second line (like at tripping line) to the anchor at one end and to the main anchor line say 12 feet from the anchor. keep the anchor line in the crutch, drop the anchor from your seating position over the side as it bites it should keep the kayak bow to. When you haul in the point the handluing line comes over the crutch and to you, tie off the main line, disconnect the "tripping line" (for wont of a better term) Flip it out of the crutch) and haul the last bit up on the small line so that the anchor comes to your hand over the side of the kayak. I can see it in my mind .....but I'm not sure it's clear when written
I can see tangling might be a problem but I doubt you will want to anchor more than once a trip so you should be able to keep it reasonably untwisted
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Post by JohnV on Jul 16, 2021 12:17:28 GMT
After a second quick think, a possibly simpler and better system.
Eye bolt on point of bow, large ring tied to short line (say 12 foot or so) fed through eye bolt. loose end tied off. in cockpit
Main anchor line runs through large ring, bitter end in cockpit ...... drop anchor when it touches bottom give some slack, tie off. then tighten short line bringing main line to bow
In recovery, weigh the anchor clear of the bottom, release the second line then pull in anchor from the side.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 16, 2021 12:21:05 GMT
Please note .... no responsibility is taken for any accidents or deaths occurring from use of this system
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 12:28:44 GMT
GPS based Dynamic Positioning System.
Easy. Just get 4 ROV thrusters and wire it all together clip a battery onto it sorted.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 16, 2021 12:29:01 GMT
After a second quick think, a possibly simpler and better system. Eye bolt on point of bow, large ring tied to short line (say 12 foot or so) fed through eye bolt. loose end tied off. in cockpit Main anchor line runs through large ring, bitter end in cockpit ...... drop anchor when it touches bottom give some slack, tie off. then tighten short line bringing main line to bow In recovery, weigh the anchor clear of the bottom, release the second line then pull in anchor from the side. I think that's broadly similar to my second idea but I'm going to make a coffee, get a piece of paper and draw it out, then have a little think!
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Post by thebfg on Jul 16, 2021 15:32:22 GMT
Have you considered a sea anchor?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 15:38:09 GMT
All you need is a rove attached to the bow and, as you suggest, something to allow retrieval of that line without the bother of going to the bow - the carabiner notion would work. I'd say the biggest issue is what you will do with the sodding thing the 99.9999% of the time you don't need it. I suggest a rubber bucket.
Sea anchor - only of use in water too deep for the anchor rove. Wouldn't take up much space though.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 16, 2021 18:28:51 GMT
Right I've visited the kayak in the sailing club yard and hashed something up using various carabiners, shackles and lengths of rope.
If I stop posting late tomorrow you'll know my set up was a failure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 18:43:15 GMT
Another possible option would be to find disposable items such as car brake rotors and just double the line and leave the thing behind.
They are quite good mushroom anchors actually. It depends of course how regularly you want to do it and how many rotors you can get your hands on.
The old tyre and brakes places often just discard the old rotors.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 16, 2021 18:47:43 GMT
Another possible option would be to find disposable items such as car brake rotors and just double the line and leave the thing behind. They are quite good mushroom anchors actually. It depends of course how regularly you want to do it and how many rotors you can get your hands on. The old tyre and brakes places often just discard the old rotors. Wish I'd known that a few days ago, spent 15 quid on an anchor grrrr.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 19:02:44 GMT
Also grapnel anchors are rubbish. I recently sent one to the scrap because no-one wanted it.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 16, 2021 19:09:35 GMT
Also grapnel anchors are rubbish. I recently sent one to the scrap because no-one wanted it. Blimey, talk about rubbing it in.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 19:11:27 GMT
What about a really long telescopic spud leg.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 20:41:48 GMT
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