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Post by JohnV on Aug 3, 2021 13:58:44 GMT
I, like several others on here have sometimes expressed a dissatisfaction with the BBC and questioned it's honesty and evenhandedness.
Most of the articles I have seen supporting this idea have come from people or organisations that I would hesitate to quote as a "reliable source"
This however seems different and much of what it says ties in with my own opinions.
This group seems to have produced other videos but those I have not seen. This stands on it's own and gives an interesting insight from people who worked there
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 17:08:11 GMT
The BBC is fast-becoming an outmoded (and I imagine nepotistic) institution which will eventually change - such is the way of things. However I see the currently prevailing mood at the BBC at least in part a reaction to the new way in which we all now receive 'news' - a lot of the time steeped in bias and propaganda of the opposite sort. There's a lot more of them than institutions like the BBC.
Is it possible to be completely even-handed all of the time? I have my doubts. If there is no comment or opinion then you are left with bland fact, which may seem great at first, but all you have to do to see the problem with that type of reportage is to read newspapers like the 'Metro', a publication so worthless they give it away.
Also, Trump is the sort of looney so incredibly unsuited to hold the reigns of power and the BBC was entirely justified in consistently criticising the man and everything he stands for. The only reason he won the day was the lack of any credible opposition. If anything, Trump taught us all a valuable lesson - democracy has a serious flaw. IMHO.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 17:15:50 GMT
Those of the left persuasion say the BBC is biassed to the right Those of the right persuasion say the BBC is biassed to the left Methinks that makes it somewhere in the middle
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Post by JohnV on Aug 3, 2021 17:24:06 GMT
Those of the left persuasion say the BBC is biassed to the right Those of the right persuasion say the BBC is biassed to the left Methinks that makes it somewhere in the middle did you watch the program ? or are you making a pre judgement.
it wasn't so much left or right it was the problem of "group think" and a desire to protect the institution from outside criticism
Left or right had nothing to do with the Saville cover up or the Bashir incident
methinks you didn't listen to some of the figures being talked about in the section about Brexit public discussions on the Beeb
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 17:56:26 GMT
Didnt watch it as I dont watch anything posted on interweb unless its sport or music as 99.99% of it is bollocks.
I posted my comment as a view on BBC bias rather than corruption.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 18:11:49 GMT
Those of the left persuasion say the BBC is biassed to the right Those of the right persuasion say the BBC is biassed to the left Methinks that makes it somewhere in the middle did you watch the program ? or are you making a pre judgement.
it wasn't so much left or right it was the problem of "group think" and a desire to protect the institution from outside criticism
Left or right had nothing to do with the Saville cover up or the Bashir incident
methinks you didn't listen to some of the figures being talked about in the section about Brexit public discussions on the Beeb
Every institution or corporation that exists will deny everything and cover every bad event up until it just isn't possible anymore. The BBC is no different. Public image is everything these days. And yes, I did watch the whole thing. Loddon, I have to say I can't recall anyone accusing the Beeb of right-wing bias for quite some time.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 3, 2021 18:19:46 GMT
Didnt watch it as I dont watch anything posted on interweb unless its sport or music as 99.99% of it is bollocks. I posted my comment as a view on BBC bias rather than corruption. If you didn't watch it then you just showed yourself in a poor light in commenting upon it
and as regards your comment about postings I would refer you to Simak's Law "99% of everything is rubbish"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 18:20:19 GMT
did you watch the program ? or are you making a pre judgement. it wasn't so much left or right it was the problem of "group think" and a desire to protect the institution from outside criticism
Left or right had nothing to do with the Saville cover up or the Bashir incident methinks you didn't listen to some of the figures being talked about in the section about Brexit public discussions on the Beeb
Every institution or corporation that exists will deny everything and cover every bad event up until it just isn't possible anymore. The BBC is no different. Public image is everything these days. And yes, I did watch the whole thing. Loddon, I have to say I can't recall anyone accusing the Beeb of right-wing bias for quite some time. Regularly happens on my Twitter feed after all Laura is the Tories puppet
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Post by JohnV on Aug 3, 2021 18:22:32 GMT
Every institution or corporation that exists will deny everything and cover every bad event up until it just isn't possible anymore. The BBC is no different. Public image is everything these days. And yes, I did watch the whole thing. Loddon, I have to say I can't recall anyone accusing the Beeb of right-wing bias for quite some time. Regularly happens on my Twitter feed after all Laura is the Tories puppet you are really coming over as a blinkered twit
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 18:26:40 GMT
John, how much wine did you consume today whilst sitting on your deckchair wearing a Union Jack knotted hanky to protect the bald patch?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 18:29:28 GMT
Regularly happens on my Twitter feed after all Laura is the Tories puppet you are really coming over as a blinkered twit So because I have an independent view not aligned to your world vision I am blinkered
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Post by JohnV on Aug 3, 2021 18:41:12 GMT
John, how much wine did you consume today whilst sitting on your deckchair wearing a Union Jack knotted hanky to protect the bald patch? I am like Mr Stabby in that I have sufficient bountiful growth to wear it in a pony tail, I also never wear a knotted hanky on my head of any description I consumed a total of two small glasses of white wine totalling approximately 250 mL.
If you were trying to imply by the crack about a Union Jack Hanky, that this was a right wing propaganda film that I was promoting then you are seriously mistaken
did you watch the program ? It was quite a damning (in a very quiet and civilised fashion) discussion about a lack of even handedness by the BBC
I don't think the bishop could have been described as a right wing zealot and the majority of the other voices were quite sane and measured
One of them having held a high position in the BBC before his retirement
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Post by JohnV on Aug 3, 2021 18:43:31 GMT
you are really coming over as a blinkered twit So because I have an independent view not aligned to your world vision I am blinkered You are blinkered because you form an opinion and pronounce upon it without even watching the evidence.
That is not an independent view, that is ignorance
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 18:58:27 GMT
So because I have an independent view not aligned to your world vision I am blinkered You are blinkered because you form an opinion and pronounce upon it without even watching the evidence. That is not an independent view, that is ignorance
I posted a view of the BBC not a view on your video so I dont need to watch the video to do that. Sorry we dont agree but you will just have to get over it. You might as well stop trying to insult me as it doesnt work.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 3, 2021 18:58:29 GMT
I didn’t watch the programme. I think in general the Beeb’s overage of news is even handed and political bias is fairly neutral. In terms of their ability to recognise their own failings and deal with them promptly, openly, honestly and fairly they are as woeful as most other large organisations. Protecting their image is top priority. Did I miss anything?
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