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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 11, 2021 18:28:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 20:37:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 20:56:47 GMT
Have you considered approaching the nbta about your dilemma around having your rather nasty (by your own admission) narrow boat stolen and subsequently fenced by the CRT? The nbta, other than obviously being a CRT or Tim Coghlan stooge, are apparently quite good at getting overly entitled "we want the canals privatised when do we want it NOW" types getting their shit dealt with.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 11, 2021 21:17:28 GMT
But if you remember your thread. We discussed keeping logs and evidencing the log. They make mistakes, big ones in this case. But the simple log which was verified( which if I remember correctly I stated was important) Saved the day and he continues on. I'm not their biggest fan but ultimately and eventually it was resolved.
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Post by patty on Aug 12, 2021 6:55:02 GMT
I have kept diaries for perhaps 15 years.. Every day I chart both relevant facts and feelings etc On a few occasions they have been used to prove events happened including disputes with solicitors(these I won) It would be easy to do this on a boat and maybe add in the odd receipt .. Its no big deal I have learnt the importance of the Here n Now documentation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 7:17:28 GMT
I agree thebfg ...that story had a happy ending entirely due to the boat owners ability to document his movements irrefutably. I am confident my daily logs (complete with receipts etc.) will never be needed, other than for happy memories and bedtime reading for myself. But better I have them and not need them, than need them and not have them Rog
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Post by Jim on Aug 12, 2021 8:11:33 GMT
I think it also demonstrates the need to make a phone call and talk to someone, as well as backing up by email, the excuse of spam folder isn't good enough.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 13, 2021 14:05:39 GMT
I'll pop this in here as smother example of why keeping logs and showing evidence could become a normal thing.
This boater was accused of overstaying on a 48hr mooring. Its important to note that he didn't and any such accusation could be made about any boater regardless of how well they comply.
It's also quite interesting that they will only send an invoice to someone who agrees to pay it.
I think this is quite important for other reasons that it shows they are using contract law and with the admittance of paying will prevent the invoice ever going to court, which prevents their poor take on contract law being scrutinised.
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For those that followed the saga of our alleged overstay, I can inform you I have received an apology from CRT and an assurance that they will tone down the language in their correspondence and ask boaters to provide their evidence of the duration of their stay. CRT have agreed that they will not issue an invoice until the boater has agreed that they did overstay and is prepared to pay the charge. I did not get bogged down in the legality of said overstay charge as they agreed not to sent me an invoice. The issue came about as they use ‘volunteer’ spotters at various locations who typically only log the day you are spotted. Again I did not get involved in the legitimacy of using volunteers but I think it is an issue. To prove an overstay on 48 hrs CRT need the volunteer spotter to log the boat on four consecutive days. We were only logged on three days and actually only spent 40 hrs on the mooring. CRT tried to contact me on the fifth day of our first arriving at the mooring (two days after we had left) even though there was no log of us being there on day four. As I missed the call with my phone being in the cabin and me on the tiller CRT decided to ping me for the overstay charge. At least it is all now sorted and boaters staying at Bathampton for less than 48 hrs should not be harassed by CRT regarding overstaying.
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