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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Aug 7, 2021 17:27:52 GMT
Land and Water seem to win every contract that CRT put out to tender.
Is there a connection? A favoured contractor loophole? Or is there a personal connection such as a common director or relation to Parry?
Is the tendering process fair and unbiased? I don't think it is from some of the prices that have been accepted by CRT in recent years.
Can anyone dispel my suspicions?
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Post by thebfg on Aug 7, 2021 17:36:44 GMT
Do they receive tenders from any other company?
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Aug 7, 2021 17:59:54 GMT
Yes, see their website.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2021 18:07:52 GMT
Wasn't Land and Water one of the contractors who bought up a lot of the equipment and plant C&RT sold off ? Now C&RT pay them to use their old machinery Rog
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Post by metanoia on Aug 7, 2021 18:15:39 GMT
.. and what they didn't, Rothens did? You'll be passing their new empire and (local gossip has it "iffy") new marina shortly, dogless ...
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Aug 7, 2021 18:34:49 GMT
.. and what they didn't, Rothens did? You'll be passing their new empire and (local gossip has it "iffyl") new marina shortly, dogless ... Could that be Mancetter " Marina " where there was a solitary boat in the reeds for years?
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Aug 7, 2021 18:36:35 GMT
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Post by metanoia on Aug 7, 2021 18:40:47 GMT
It is indeed. Locals reckon they never had permission from CRT who are now demanding some kind of payment, which seems a bit ironic, really ....
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Aug 7, 2021 18:48:48 GMT
Were Land & Water at Malcomb Brain's place in Weston, Staffs?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2021 18:52:46 GMT
This is the sort of thing one should be able to find out about really easily. Yes there is a CRT / L&W connection. It's a cousin or something. Keep it in the family.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 7, 2021 18:58:14 GMT
I agree that CRT should have kept this work in-house but the same thing happens in road transport too, e.g. at one point Tesco would have owned all of the trucks and trailers and employed all of the drivers required to supply their stores, but then they get rid of it all and get someone like Stobart or Wincanton in to do it instead. Presumably there is some type of commercial advantage to doing this although I don't know what that would be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2021 19:01:54 GMT
It's slightly different with CRT though because there are units such as dredgers and boat based crane platforms which have a very defined purposes.
Tesco use wagons. That's a pretty generic thing for which there will be a vast availability and a large pool of knowledge.
The same can not be said for things like dredgers because the market for dredging is so much smaller than for general haulage.
CRT or was it BW offloading these units was a basic error but also quite likely to be a basic money making scheme among friends and relations.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 7, 2021 21:13:57 GMT
Their surname is oddly Rothen. Neither of them hold any positions at any other company.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 8:28:42 GMT
Well it was Rothens who bought the crane barge by road to lift the dislodged gate at Southcote lock on the K&A.
This locks seems to have a broken gate anchor. The pot which the pintle in bottom of heel post sits in.
They say boat damage but I wonder if the pot may have broken up due to age.
About 1995 wasn't it that the K&A locks were rebuilt.
That's quite a lot of opening and closing, and one wonders whether these wearing parts have been replaced in that time.
They don't last forever.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 8, 2021 8:52:50 GMT
A boat was involved, got caught in the gate but i suspect it was the icing on the cake for a knackered gate.
The canal reopened in 1990. We did Newbury to Bath early 1991.
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