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Post by Jim on Sept 10, 2021 9:15:46 GMT
The nub of the issue for me is the unfairness of not treating dementia like any other illness, treated by the NHS, whatever it takes. Any other physical or mental illness gets sorted, no problems, but this, in some ways physical and mental, gets ignored.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 9:17:27 GMT
I'm ok thanks Andy.
Sorry to go down this route shall we get back to the "Bojo has played a blinder and will get votes from this" topic?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 9:20:22 GMT
Thats good, couldn't help worrying.
The thread will go the way it does - hopefully Boris will be history soon though, even if the axe comes from within the party...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 9:25:54 GMT
The nub of the issue for me is the unfairness of not treating dementia like any other illness, treated by the NHS, whatever it takes. Any other physical or mental illness gets sorted, no problems, but this, in some ways physical and mental, gets ignored. Before it turned into an epidemic it was easier to sweep it into the corner.
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Post by patty on Sept 10, 2021 9:28:35 GMT
I worked for over a decade in nursing homes... Labour intensive the bosses in one would not allow breaks..if we sat down we were not working It was obv all about the £££'s. Some of the rooms far better quality and those who paid got them..those who the state paid for got the smaller rooms without a nice outlook. The care was the same.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 9:36:56 GMT
Shocking that we let our parents end up in said homes.
Trying to think about my dad and if he needed it would i move him in with me, would like to say yes but till it happens who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 9:40:49 GMT
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Post by ianali on Sept 10, 2021 9:43:01 GMT
I worked hard, paid lots of tax, saved up all with the plan of being able to retire early. My plan worked. I have no intention of my hard work and savings being taken away from me. I’ve taken steps to be as sure as I can that any money I have after I die, or after my brain dies, will be left to my family. Only seems fair to me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 9:43:26 GMT
I worked for over a decade in nursing homes... Labour intensive the bosses in one would not allow breaks..if we sat down we were not working It was obv all about the £££'s. Some of the rooms far better quality and those who paid got them..those who the state paid for got the smaller rooms without a nice outlook. The care was the same. I have no doubt what you say is true. But profiteering by unscrupulous private organisations and individuals is a secondary issue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 9:50:31 GMT
Shocking that we let our parents end up in said homes. Trying to think about my dad and if he needed it would i move him in with me, would like to say yes but till it happens who knows. Do you think you could provide personal care for your mum as easily as you might for your dad? And no slight intended but in-laws tend to have negative reactions to any such matters. Most people, myself included, give little thought to these things until there's a crisis.
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Post by ianali on Sept 10, 2021 9:54:45 GMT
Shocking that we let our parents end up in said homes. Trying to think about my dad and if he needed it would i move him in with me, would like to say yes but till it happens who knows. Do you think you could provide personal care for your mum as easily as you might for your dad? And no slight intended but in-laws tend to have negative reactions to any such matters. Most people, myself included, give little thought to these things until there's a crisis. We had my mum with us for a few months in early stages of dementia. Unbelievably difficult times and I don’t think anyone can know how awful it is until they experience it. I still feel guilty that she spent her last days in a care home.
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Post by tonyb on Sept 10, 2021 9:58:10 GMT
a has raised a very serious point about how animals in the UK are better treated than people. Why are people given no other option than to commit suicide in a way that will traumatise others when they feel they have no other way out. The fact this has constantly been ignored by the politicians makes me suspect his view that it is just another way of shovelling money to their supporters may be true.
My sister worked for years as a registered mental health nurse and it was clear that her safety was put at risk by private home owners refusing to staff to adequate levels and also refusing to install panic buttons. In fact, she had been attacked and badly injured, but the HSE and the quality care people made every excuse possible not to investigate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 9:58:49 GMT
Providing 24 hr care is hard work.
It would also take a reasonable shift of what is acceptable (as much from the old as the young). Try telling your mum/dad that you will help them onto the commode and wipe their bum when the have finished, or help them shower.
Been through it with my wife, but I suspect if it comes down to it my mum would prefer a stranger to do those things.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 10:04:23 GMT
Shocking that we let our parents end up in said homes. Trying to think about my dad and if he needed it would i move him in with me, would like to say yes but till it happens who knows. Do you think you could provide personal care for your mum as easily as you might for your dad? And no slight intended but in-laws tend to have negative reactions to any such matters. Most people, myself included, give little thought to these things until there's a crisis. Don't have a mum so no worries there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 10:11:40 GMT
Do you think you could provide personal care for your mum as easily as you might for your dad? And no slight intended but in-laws tend to have negative reactions to any such matters. Most people, myself included, give little thought to these things until there's a crisis. Don't have a mum so no worries there. My mum has passed on so any such issues are also now in the past. But it's a reality for many. I can't help but reflect that this is a cultural problem. In many countries whether or not to care for one's elderly relatives is not a question.
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