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Post by kris on Sept 16, 2021 12:51:57 GMT
I want to cc, though obviously Crt want to maximise income by minimising nice free moorings, taking the best for the Waterside lot, even though many are not booked: I think I am currently sitting on one such, but the notices are rather vague, ie open to interpretation, and if it says "leisure mooring", does that not include me in? I will stay here overnight, it's handy to the shops and launderette. mind you, your just trying to provoke him more now.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 16, 2021 12:57:31 GMT
Whats up Kris? You don't normally come across as this grumpy.. suppose I've missed something I’m fine thank you patty. I just don’t like how some people spread their negative assumptions about other people. Couldn't agree more, . . although spreading unsubstantiated accusations and potentially damaging rumours is an even more appalling way to behave. Believe it or not, there have actually been instances when members of this forum have joined in calling another member's honesty into question by lending their support to groundless, malicious rumour-mongering. I recall one occasion when well known embezzler, fantasist, and congenital liar JJ [aka. Bedruthan, Steve Jay, Jenlyn, John Evans, Steve Jenkin etc.] was posting outright lies to the effect that someone who had been unlawfully evicted from their liveaboard pleasure boat by the C&RT and it's boat thieving contractors, . . was, technically, not evicted because in fact he was living elsewhere at the time. Active support for the unfounded rumour-mongering came mainly by way of several changes to the title of a long running TB thread dealing specifically with the unlawful seizure of the boat, and the eviction of the liveaboard owner. The intention behind the changes to the thread title, all of them willingly made by the originator of the thread, was clearly for no other purpose than to bolster and perpetuate the lies that JJ [under the name 'Bedruthan'] was publishing, . . and to undermine the evicted boat owner's case against those responsible for evicting him from his sole residence in contravention of the Covid-19 emergency regulations.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 12:58:28 GMT
I want to cc, though obviously Crt want to maximise income by minimising nice free moorings, taking the best for the Waterside lot, even though many are not booked: I think I am currently sitting on one such, but the notices are rather vague, ie open to interpretation, and if it says "leisure mooring", does that not include me in? I will stay here overnight, it's handy to the shops and launderette. If it has a big black sign up with white writing and warns you will get fined for mooring there, you cant moor there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 13:01:52 GMT
I want to cc, though obviously Crt want to maximise income by minimising nice free moorings, taking the best for the Waterside lot, even though many are not booked: I think I am currently sitting on one such, but the notices are rather vague, ie open to interpretation, and if it says "leisure mooring", does that not include me in? I will stay here overnight, it's handy to the shops and launderette. If it has a big black sign up with white writing and warns you will get fined for mooring there, you cant moor there. That's OK then, I can't see a sign, so I'm OK.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 13:28:43 GMT
not always, check for posts with little square signs, the ones that say 7 days/24 hours ect, it may have one saying long term permit holders only.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 16, 2021 16:35:56 GMT
Apart from I'm not a southerner... Don't you lurk around Nottingham? I don’t lurk anywhere. Skulk, . . far more apposite and descriptive !
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Post by JohnV on Sept 16, 2021 17:20:27 GMT
not always, check for posts with little square signs, the ones that say 7 days/24 hours ect, it may have one saying long term permit holders only. if the posts are wooden...... it is starting to get chilly enough in the evenings to light the stove and kindling is always needed
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Post by patty on Sept 17, 2021 5:38:44 GMT
Whats up Kris? You don't normally come across as this grumpy.. suppose I've missed something I’m fine thank you patty. I just don’t like how some people spread their negative assumptions about other people. ok... take care
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 8:01:14 GMT
Lots of boats bridge hop in that area in the winter, so you will have company which is a good thing, I had a friend that did it for a year or two with no issues So basically wanting cheap boating at others expense just because they can get away with it? Not sure if you are having a dig at me or anyone who wants to live on their boat but not in a marina? It's not always an easy option, but I think that forward planning is probably going to be more enjoyable than hiding under a bridge. The CRT do offer winter moorings, not in the spirit of boosting boaters wellbeing, but in the spirit of increasing their own income from licence holders. I believe some of these moorings turn in to lines of moored boats, occupied or otherwise and accessed by muddy footpaths, so absolutely not what I want.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 17, 2021 8:33:58 GMT
So basically wanting cheap boating at others expense just because they can get away with it? Not sure if you are having a dig at me or anyone who wants to live on their boat but not in a marina? It's not always an easy option, but I think that forward planning is probably going to be more enjoyable than hiding under a bridge. The CRT do offer winter moorings, not in the spirit of boosting boaters wellbeing, but in the spirit of increasing their own income from licence holders. I believe some of these moorings turn in to lines of moored boats, occupied or otherwise and accessed by muddy footpaths, so absolutely not what I want. Given the increasingly decrepit and unreliable state of all of the waterways available to you, I wouldn't say that any sort of forward planning is even remotely possible. I think your best plan would simply be to decide on an area that suits you, and stay within it for as long as it suits you to do so during the coming months. If C&RT do begin putting any pressure on you to either move further and more frequently, or to pay them for the privilege of having your very own boat's length of towpath to moor to for the Winter, you can reappraise the situation there and then. In the absence of guarantees from C&RT as to the waterway you're located on being open to navigation and useable at any given time, it is NOT reasonable for C&RT to expect or demand a schedule of boat movements that their negligence has rendered impossible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 11:01:26 GMT
And of course if one chooses to continuously cruise one has to expect to encounter stoppages caused by ice or infrastructure issues. Whatever C&Rt's many faults, I have always found them to be more tolerant during winter weather ... particularly as a single-hander I would suggest that severe winter weather could be circumstances in which it is simply not safe or wise to move. Personally if I was considering paying for a month's mooring I'd seek a marina with full services so as to feel I was getting something extra for my money Rog
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Post by kris on Sept 17, 2021 12:04:27 GMT
The winter moorings are very exspensive for often what are unserviced lengths of towpath. So you end up having to move for water or toilet facilities anyway. A marina mooring can often be about the same price. As for moving when safe, it’s up to me to decide when the river sections are safe in winter and it’s as much to do with flow as it is to do with level.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 12:17:38 GMT
Exactly the point I was making ... even on canals, ice and snow can present conditions too dangerous to sensibly consider cruising.
Personally of the two (towpath winter mooring or marina) I'd choose a marina for a spell.
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Post by kris on Sept 17, 2021 12:29:28 GMT
Exactly the point I was making ... even on canals, ice and snow can present conditions too dangerous to sensibly consider cruising. Personally of the two (towpath winter mooring or marina) I'd choose a marina for a spell. Rog I can understand why you prefer a marina in winter. Living on the towpath isn’t the easy option that a lot of people seem to think it is. Your definately not getting away with anything. Personally I prefer the towpaths in winter as they are quieter and we get some beautiful days. As long as I keep getting prepared enough gas and fuel onboard and also restock the food stuffs etc as getting stuck on the boat for a few days every winter is the reality of towpath dwelling around here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 12:44:22 GMT
I don't ... we've never taken a winter mooring although we have been frozen in on a couple of occasions (Braunston and Long Itchington).
But if I saw an extremely cold snap was coming and considered taking a mooring, I'd rather have the amenities a marina provides for the money, than just a towpath mooring you can take for free anyway.
For a single hander (like @socks) the social element of a marina may be beneficial in the depths of winter too.
Rog
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