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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 21:25:58 GMT
And there I was just settling on simple wood stain or preservative . Mind you it's nice to be chatting about boaty stuff for a change No votes for teak oil ? Rog
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 21:27:24 GMT
Does need to be used edge on for maximum strength That depends how strong you are. Can you break a plank? I can't. Even though I am two stone lighter than I was, I still carry "slightly" more weight than you do
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 21:28:37 GMT
Also to be fair some boat boarding planks are painted and not particularly strong so I can see how they could break.
It's always good to keep in mind the behaviour of others and not advocate a universal solution.
Tell people to use the plank side on and you'll find someone who has a rotten plank.
And I'm like isn't it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 21:31:25 GMT
And there I was just settling on simple wood stain or preservative . Mind you it's nice to be chatting about boaty stuff for a change No votes for teak oil ? Rog Do you think perhaps you ought to edit the thread title to take into account recent events? Perhaps even consider wayfarer dinghy masts as a pole solution.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 21:35:40 GMT
I have previously been advised to buy a bannister rail rather than an actual Ash pole ... but wood prices such as they are, I don't believe there'd be much of a saving.
As for changing titles ... wouldn't have a clue how to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 21:48:30 GMT
Bannister rail "mopstick" would usually be pine. Bad material for a boat pole.
I think there is also ash mopstick available but it seems to make more sense to get an ash boat pole from a swindlers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 21:56:45 GMT
And there I was just settling on simple wood stain or preservative . Mind you it's nice to be chatting about boaty stuff for a change No votes for teak oil ? Rog Perhaps even consider wayfarer dinghy masts as a pole solution. They are surprisingly heavy.
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Post by ianali on Sept 20, 2021 22:00:16 GMT
The shafts are really just ornamental... can't think I've ever used either, but like the anchor and life ring (also never used) they're part of the boat's equipment and I consider I should replace said item for the eventuality we sell at some time. I guess paint is used for simply decorative purposes then, and some appropriate stain or preservative is the best bet. Rog That’s not the first time you’ve mentioned selling your boat of late! Hang in there, wouldn’t want anymore members boats being put up for sale.
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Post by JohnV on Sept 20, 2021 22:04:51 GMT
for a big barge, swindlers poles are too small by far
I spotted a new ash long shaft on a tug the other day and I have been promised the details of where they bought it
about 15 foot long and about 2" thick ash
I've had a proper blacksmith made head and a nice turned pommel for a couple of years now waiting to find a source of proper ash poles
as a says pine is not a good material ash will flex a long way before it breaks, much more than pine
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 22:21:58 GMT
To be fair a real spruce pole would be okay but rather hard to find.
Pine these days usually means a machine rounded plank rather than an actual pole made from the trunk of the tree.
I don't know for sure as it was a long time ago but I suspect that in ye olde days of yore the shafts on canal boats were probably spruce.
I have an old 16ft ex GU regents canal plain shaft which seems to be ash but I don't think it is likely to be any older than about 70 years. It's not in very good condition and kept indoors as it's more of an ornament than a serious or useful tool. They are getting rather rare now for obvious reasons. I have only ever seen one other one that long and obviously old.
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Post by JohnV on Sept 21, 2021 6:29:43 GMT
To be fair a real spruce pole would be okay but rather hard to find. Pine these days usually means a machine rounded plank rather than an actual pole made from the trunk of the tree. I don't know for sure as it was a long time ago but I suspect that in ye olde days of yore the shafts on canal boats were probably spruce. I have an old 16ft ex GU regents canal plain shaft which seems to be ash but I don't think it is likely to be any older than about 70 years. It's not in very good condition and kept indoors as it's more of an ornament than a serious or useful tool. They are getting rather rare now for obvious reasons. I have only ever seen one other one that long and obviously old. there are a few very old ones long ones around on some of the working barges and tugs (the tugs use them more for hooking heavy warps lowered by ships than for the traditional boat moving techniques so don't have pommels) I have seen both hooked and plain ended with reinforcing steel rings on some nicely preserved sailing keels/sloops..... but they are all jealously guarded
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Post by patty on Sept 21, 2021 7:12:10 GMT
I found a solid pole in the woods and brought it home for grand daughter to have a go at using wood preservative..it looks ok I thought I'd use it for something and I'm sure I will. On the boat I had a painted one, sourced by my boat friend who fitted out the boat.. it was a tad big for me but fortunately as I steered the boat it was little sis who got to wield it.... I preferred the look of wood preservative to paint
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Sept 21, 2021 7:41:52 GMT
I would cut it up and burn it to save you the angst of paint or varnish dilemma.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 7:52:46 GMT
To be fair a real spruce pole would be okay but rather hard to find. Pine these days usually means a machine rounded plank rather than an actual pole made from the trunk of the tree. I don't know for sure as it was a long time ago but I suspect that in ye olde days of yore the shafts on canal boats were probably spruce. I have an old 16ft ex GU regents canal plain shaft which seems to be ash but I don't think it is likely to be any older than about 70 years. It's not in very good condition and kept indoors as it's more of an ornament than a serious or useful tool. They are getting rather rare now for obvious reasons. I have only ever seen one other one that long and obviously old. there are a few very old ones long ones around on some of the working barges and tugs (the tugs use them more for hooking heavy warps lowered by ships than for the traditional boat moving techniques so don't have pommels) I have seen both hooked and plain ended with reinforcing steel rings on some nicely preserved sailing keels/sloops..... but they are all jealously guarded I remember seeing a picture your nice big iron boathook. I've got one similar in my collection and someone told me it was a 'snagging hook', for handling craft by the bollards or lifting ropes on and off as you suggest. Much larger than ordinary canal boat hooks and the spike is cranked away from the hooked part.
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Sept 21, 2021 8:05:13 GMT
There is nothing quite like being handled by the bollards is there? Beats shafting a boat any day.
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