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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 27, 2021 18:02:01 GMT
Have you tried leaving the alternator on the stern deck for three weeks and seeing if that does anything?
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Post by Jim on Sept 27, 2021 18:03:10 GMT
Have you tried leaving the alternator on the stern deck for three weeks and seeing if that does anything? I'm quoting this to prevent the above post being deleted at some future point. I'm sure Mr Stabby will approve, his stunning wit being preserved for future generations. It will, no doubt, improve if left to stand and foment for 3 weeks, like kimchi, broken engines etc. © Jim Riley, no unauthorized copying allowed.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 27, 2021 18:05:53 GMT
It probably doesn't help with your charging issue but I've noticed that "Canaline" is an anagram of "Nice anal".
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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 27, 2021 18:07:38 GMT
Have you tried leaving the alternator on the stern deck for three weeks and seeing if that does anything? Same again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 18:13:05 GMT
The anagram is funny.
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Post by patty on Sept 28, 2021 6:08:00 GMT
It would be nice if Quaysiders issues with the alternator could be sorted without all this stupidity....
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Post by quaysider on Sept 28, 2021 6:42:12 GMT
Always difficult to fault find on something whilst it’s working! I notice the D+ connector in the first photo looks like it’s not fully pushed home, maybe an issue, maybe not. You say the lights are on then off, which is fine. The question is, were the lights on then off when the alternator wasn’t charging? I am struggling to see how the inverter in normal or power saving mode could make any difference. Even when it doesn't work, the lights stay off once the engine is running. Re. the connector on the blue one (original one) - it's loose cause I was half pulling it off when I thought "bugger, I ought to take a photo so I don't balls it up when putting it back on again". We got through yesterday with multiple 'stop starts' and all worked fine. I'm dreading firing up in a minute and it not working again (well in a few mins as it's only just gone half 7 and I have boats infront and behind so I 'll stick to the rules)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 6:59:15 GMT
Every time i have had issues like this its been a loose wire, either on the alternator/battery/back of the key or split charge box of magic, now i check every wire before i do anything.
Just saying.
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 28, 2021 7:13:37 GMT
Always difficult to fault find on something whilst it’s working! I notice the D+ connector in the first photo looks like it’s not fully pushed home, maybe an issue, maybe not. You say the lights are on then off, which is fine. The question is, were the lights on then off when the alternator wasn’t charging? I am struggling to see how the inverter in normal or power saving mode could make any difference. Even when it doesn't work, the lights stay off once the engine is running. Re. the connector on the blue one (original one) - it's loose cause I was half pulling it off when I thought "bugger, I ought to take a photo so I don't balls it up when putting it back on again". We got through yesterday with multiple 'stop starts' and all worked fine. I'm dreading firing up in a minute and it not working again (well in a few mins as it's only just gone half 7 and I have boats infront and behind so I 'll stick to the rules) If my hypothesis is correct, it is expected that the warning light would be off with the engine running with or without the alternator working. The key point is whether the light was on when you turned on the ignition before starting, but the problem is you only have a moment to notice it. So my suggestion is that if the problem recurs, stop the engine, turn the ignition back on and observe the warning light, then restart. Current through the warning light circuit is needed to get the alternator working on startup, once it’s working the light circuit has no impact.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 28, 2021 8:07:02 GMT
Anyway, here are a few photos I took of the old (blue) and new (silver one) - and the current connection... (ie no switch) which HAS worked today... The male spade terminal lug on the D+ terminal looks as it's been bent back closer to the alternator body than it should be, instead of being angled away from it, and the plastic insulating sleeve has slipped back off the push-on connector Check and make sure that the underneath end corner of (the metal part of) the push-on spade connector isn't making intermittent contact with the metal end cover of the alternator through the sausage shaped slot in the plastic cover. I've bumped this up from yesterday because it appears to have been obscured and missed among all the Shit-for-Brains stupidity that was posted afterwards. The D+ terminal referred to is the one shown in Quaysider's photo of the original blue alternator on page 1.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 8:09:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 8:16:22 GMT
It went un-noticed because there seems to be a truculent baby who threw all the toys out of the pram with us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 8:16:23 GMT
And as for the anagram by Mr Stabby is that really so bad? It obviously gave the OP a little giggle as he "liked" it. Without these little humorous interjections it would be too boring!
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 28, 2021 8:30:13 GMT
It probably doesn't help with your charging issue but I've noticed that "Canaline" is an anagram of "Nice anal". Brilliant. I don't have the kind of intelligence that can spot anagrams but when people do, I find it hilarious. We had a manager at a previous workplace, Rod Gibson. Some clever soul spotted that this could be rearranged: Boring Sod. Funny as fuck, because he really was.
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Post by quaysider on Sept 29, 2021 5:59:52 GMT
Well that's 2 days in a row with multiple 'stop and starts' and all is well.
I'll leave it as it is - for now until I get back down to Stone for the winter (assuming it still keeps working) and then replace the other lump of cable from the batteries to a new isolation switch - of the biggest rating I can fit in the gap without moving everything else on the board.
Could it really just have been the lump of cable between the switch and alternator that was clamped along the side of the engine? -Is 5 years "old" for a 40mm square lump of cable? - then again, I suppose it HAS had 5000 hours of engine running ... heating up/cooling down to contend with... maybe it really WAS that simple and I should have investigated more thoroughly rather than assuming the alternator had gone tit up
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