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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 19:03:12 GMT
We had dinghy sailing holidays in Cornwall as kids, my dad had an enterprise wooden dinghy, we hired a motor sailer. Did that for about 10 years. Dad hired a yacht thingy for family holiday in the Greek islands when he retired. Sometime later I went with some friends of my sister on a bareboat hire in the Caribbean, a lovely 18m Italian yacht. Speeding along on wind power is very satisfying, but sailing far from land is a bit boring because nothing much to look at. This is the reason why the canals are more interesting., More boring you mean, restricted by draught, and width, subject to the whims of the one authority, and paying for water, something which the Almighty sends us in spades, and we choose to release. Yachting requires skill to capture the winds and sail the seven seas, just as Joshua Slocum did, though he did not have to contend with container ships. I was never bored on a proper boat of any sort from age ten to sixty, but it has taken me quite a while to batten down my hatches with a narrow boat, and only came to this darker side due to the infirmities of age, specifically knees.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 19:09:41 GMT
I would not recommend dinghy sailing to anyone past their teens, you should try a week or so on a skippered yacht in the outer hebrides, preferably not a moderm yacht. Plenty of proper yachts for anyone who want to be adventurous. I discount any Sun sail type experience.
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Post by JohnV on Sept 27, 2021 19:09:42 GMT
If you can find a copy, "Tinkerbelle" by Robert Manry is a cracking read Never forget Donald Crowhurst...... The strange journey of Donald Crowhurst what a strange story, a descent into madness ...... and all the more strange when they worked out that if he hadn't tried to cheat he quite possibly could have won.
It is quite a frightening story of what can go wrong with a mind.
There are some fascinating tales of people making extraordinary ocean trips ..... I have several books about characters that manage to achieve what seems impossible
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 19:14:21 GMT
Never forget Donald Crowhurst...... The strange journey of Donald Crowhurst what a strange story, a descent into madness ...... and all the more strange when they worked out that if he hadn't tried to cheat he quite possibly could have won.
It is quite a frightening story of what can go wrong with a mind.
There are some fascinating tales of people making extraordinary ocean trips ..... I have several books about characters that manage to achieve what seems impossible
There are similar tales of glider pilots who were entering competions, and worked out how to "win", Crowhurst was out there on his own, for a long time, and obviously that did not help.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 19:16:26 GMT
Never forget Donald Crowhurst...... ...they worked out that if he hadn't tried to cheat he quite possibly could have won. Piffle. His boat would never have survived the southern ocean. Both outer hulls were taking on water to name but one serious fault of the under-prepared 'Teignmouth Electron'.
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Post by freewind on Sept 27, 2021 19:19:47 GMT
A sailing boat sounds really nice.No expensive fuel,or noise or fumes,and environment friendly. Can someone recommend a suitable sailing boat for the Huddersfield Narrow?π
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Post by JohnV on Sept 27, 2021 19:22:44 GMT
The strange journey of Donald Crowhurst what a strange story, a descent into madness ...... and all the more strange when they worked out that if he hadn't tried to cheat he quite possibly could have won.
It is quite a frightening story of what can go wrong with a mind.
There are some fascinating tales of people making extraordinary ocean trips ..... I have several books about characters that manage to achieve what seems impossible
There are similar tales of glider pilots who were entering competions, and worked out how to "win", Crowhurst was out there on his own, for a long time, and obviously that did not help. I remember when I read it, if it was because he wasn't ocean racing because he loved sailing the oceans but because he wanted to promote his devices.
Maybe it's the love of the sea, the remoteness and the sense of totally depending on your own inner rescources is what protects long distance solo yachtsmen/women/persons (oh hell I can't cope with wokery) from such
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 19:24:07 GMT
The strange journey of Donald Crowhurst what a strange story, a descent into madness ...... and all the more strange when they worked out that if he hadn't tried to cheat he quite possibly could have won.
It is quite a frightening story of what can go wrong with a mind.
There are some fascinating tales of people making extraordinary ocean trips ..... I have several books about characters that manage to achieve what seems impossible
There are similar tales of glider pilots who were entering competions, and worked out how to "win", Crowhurst was out there on his own, for a long time, and obviously that did not help. But so was everyone else. Crowhurst lost it because he was caught in a lie which had serious financial implications due to a very unfavourable set of t&cs that he had agreed to. The final straw was when the boat ahead of him broke up and sank which left Crowhurst seemingly very much in contention and therefore subject to close scrutiny on his return. He faced ruin and a very public ridicule.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 27, 2021 21:14:47 GMT
I would love to take up sailing. Something just a little bigger than a windsurfer. Transportable, cheap to store, but big enough to sit down on/ in. I've no idea if such a thing is available. Sailing seems to have gone out of fashion. Try a laser. A Pico might be easier though. I must report I had Bass for tea yesterday, Co-op cheap bin Bass. Easy to catch. Delicious with a few fresh runner beans from the garden. Farmed bass for sure, almost certainly from Turkey. Wild bass (poached) sells to the pubs for Β£15 quid a kilo here (whole fish) who put it out for Β£19.95 for a small portion with veggies etc.
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Post by phil70 on Sept 27, 2021 21:41:25 GMT
Never forget Donald Crowhurst...... A tragic tale, butΒ Bernard Moitessier's efforts in the same event were far more interesting. And he was French. Blimey. How do you know all this stuff? I'm impressed Phil
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Post by brummieboy on Sept 27, 2021 21:42:52 GMT
A sailing boat sounds really nice.No expensive fuel,or noise or fumes,and environment friendly. Can someone recommend a suitable sailing boat for the Huddersfield Narrow?π Don't know about the Huddersfield Narrow, but a couple of years ago I was watching some chap tacking back and forth on the Sharpness. As I stood on the towpath, he came towards me, turned, made a right anus of it and then berated me for 'taking his wind'.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 5:31:33 GMT
A tragic tale, but Bernard Moitessier's efforts in the same event were far more interesting. And he was French. Blimey. How do you know all this stuff? I'm impressed Phil Read a book. Also there's a fair bit of footage from the time. Read it here for free www.pdfdrive.com/a-voyage-for-madmen-d195371569.htmlOr you can buy it cheaply enough www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=A+Voyage+For+Madmen&ref=nb_sb_nossAnd for your delectation and delight: The book unsurprisingly has far more detail and doesn't focus exclusively on the Crowhurst narrative. There's more to tell. Chay Blythe's account is comedy gold.
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Post by patty on Sept 28, 2021 5:42:09 GMT
Haven't tried sailing, I've wanted to have a go but as yet not really had an opportunity. I stand and watch when I can the few that get out at Swansea I'd also love a holiday on one of those tall masted sailing ships.... but suspect I won't as cannot see myself getting that sorted.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 5:52:47 GMT
Haven't tried sailing, I've wanted to have a go but as yet not really had an opportunity. I stand and watch when I can the few that get out at Swansea I'd also love a holiday on one of those tall masted sailing ships.... but suspect I won't as cannot see myself getting that sorted. You can do other stuff. For example there's a Thames barge that regularly sails from Malden in Essex. Some of these trips are overnight and weekend etc. www.top-sail.co.uk/public-trips/
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Post by patty on Sept 28, 2021 5:55:31 GMT
Haven't tried sailing, I've wanted to have a go but as yet not really had an opportunity. I stand and watch when I can the few that get out at Swansea I'd also love a holiday on one of those tall masted sailing ships.... but suspect I won't as cannot see myself getting that sorted. You can do other stuff. For example there's a Thames barge that regularly sails from Malden in Essex. Some of these trips are overnight and weekend etc. www.top-sail.co.uk/public-trips/Thanks, I'll check that out
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