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Post by Telemachus on Oct 3, 2021 21:06:45 GMT
And for the record, IMO “women’s cause” (whatever that is) is degraded by attempts to match the abduction of a random woman by a policeman, subsequent rape, murder and burning of the body, with the use of a naughty word that some people find offensive (for a reason that is not obvious to me).
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 3, 2021 21:07:11 GMT
I would have thought being tall rich and handsome they would be all over you. Worked for me. Have you tried it? I try to fight them off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 21:07:43 GMT
Somebody once espoused to me the theory that coarse language actually gets more offensive, not less, as time passes. Which seems odd. Certainly Shakespeare found it best to use it in wordplay rather than have his characters openly insult one another, which seems to indicate there was perhaps never a time it was wholly acceptable. However I think we have the Victorian era to blame for amplifying its unacceptability.
Also the exclusion of feminine terms while accepting the use of the male is pure hypocrisy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 21:08:42 GMT
What happens when you do not succeed?
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 3, 2021 21:09:57 GMT
What happens when you do not succeed? I got raped. Happened a couple of times.
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Post by Trina on Oct 3, 2021 21:10:43 GMT
No,it's just a really horrible word & as I said-I can eff & blind with the best of them.Intrigued to know if your girls are savvy enough not to use it in school-the consequences could be interesting if they did... Obviously we’ve had this discussion on here before, but here goes again… No I really don’t understand what it is about that word that gets you upset. I’m 65 and until a few years ago I wasn’t aware that this was a particularly “bad” word (coincided with joining the Thunderboat!). After all, it is just a slang term for female genitalia. If you have ever used “cock”, “dickhead”, “bollocks” etc then it’s hard not to find your objection hypocritical. What is it about female genitalia that makes a slang reference to it so objectionable? Already said that I just don't like the word.To me-cock,willy,dick etc sound funny.Perhaps they don't to a bloke-fair enough. Lady garden,tuppence,china,halfpenny,down below seem to me to be more acceptable- so don't think I'm being hypocritical.I just don't like the word-END OF !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 21:12:22 GMT
Obviously we’ve had this discussion on here before, but here goes again… No I really don’t understand what it is about that word that gets you upset. I’m 65 and until a few years ago I wasn’t aware that this was a particularly “bad” word (coincided with joining the Thunderboat!). After all, it is just a slang term for female genitalia. If you have ever used “cock”, “dickhead”, “bollocks” etc then it’s hard not to find your objection hypocritical. What is it about female genitalia that makes a slang reference to it so objectionable? END OF ! Not really.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 21:15:47 GMT
Somebody once espoused to me the theory that coarse language actually gets more offensive, not less, as time passes. Which seems odd. Certainly Shakespeare found it best to use it in wordplay rather than have his characters openly insult one another, which seems to indicate there was perhaps never a time it was wholly acceptable. However I think we have the Victorian era to blame for amplifying its unacceptability. Also the exclusion of feminine terms while accepting the use of the male is pure hypocrisy. Interesting to note the old road name changes. I actually think that the cunt thing is quite an aggressive anti female move and that women who find it offensive are doing themselves a disservice. If it were normalised and became similar to saying "scum", which is linguistically quite a similar word but without the hard "t", it would do females a favour. I can't see how retaining the rudest word in the language and objecting to it, while everyone uses it anyway, can be in any way positive towards women. It is technically a very forceful word with the hard C, a deep UN and a definite and notable T to end it. Delivery is not complex. It is effective. Drives the message home. I wonder how younger women view it. Obviously I have no interest in older women but do have female children. their mother is happy to use the word as and when but then she is very non PC even more than me.
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 3, 2021 21:17:35 GMT
Obviously we’ve had this discussion on here before, but here goes again… No I really don’t understand what it is about that word that gets you upset. I’m 65 and until a few years ago I wasn’t aware that this was a particularly “bad” word (coincided with joining the Thunderboat!). After all, it is just a slang term for female genitalia. If you have ever used “cock”, “dickhead”, “bollocks” etc then it’s hard not to find your objection hypocritical. What is it about female genitalia that makes a slang reference to it so objectionable? Already said that I just don't like the word.To me-cock,willy,dick etc sound funny.Perhaps they don't to a bloke-fair enough. Lady garden,tuppence,china,halfpenny,down below seem to me to be more acceptable- so don't think I'm being hypocritical.I just don't like the word-END OF ! It’s perfectly ok to not like a word, obviously. The question is, is it ok to demand that other people don’t use that word in your company Because you don’t like it. If so, that is a somewhat untenable position because it means that anyone can demand of you that you must not use any random word that they find unacceptable in their company. Pretty hard to go along with. I really dislike slimy shellfishy things like oysters, mussels etc. Hate them, makes me want to puke just thinking about them. But if I went out for a meal with someone who wanted to eat them, I wouldn’t object. It’s all about whether one feels empowered to force ones own preferences and dislikes on others, or not. for me, the term is a general one of abuse a bit like dickhead, cock, etc. But I will happily use it on someone of either gender. There is a disconnect between the word as a term of abuse, and the female genitalia thingy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 21:17:58 GMT
What happens when you do not succeed? I got raped. Happened a couple of times. Did you report these incidents?
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Post by Trina on Oct 3, 2021 21:19:54 GMT
Already said that I just don't like the word.To me-cock,willy,dick etc sound funny.Perhaps they don't to a bloke-fair enough. Lady garden,tuppence,china,halfpenny,down below seem to me to be more acceptable- so don't think I'm being hypocritical.I just don't like the word-END OF ! It’s perfectly ok to not like a word, obviously. The question is, is it ok to demand that other people don’t use that word in your company Because you don’t like it. If so, that is a somewhat untenable position because it means that anyone can demand of you that you must not use any random word that they find unacceptable in their company. Pretty hard to go along with. I really dislike slimy shellfishy things like oysters, mussels etc. Hate them, makes me want to puke just thinking about them. But if I went out for a meal with someone who wanted to eat them, I wouldn’t object. It’s all about whether one feels empowered to force ones own preferences and dislikes on others, or not. What a load of absolute...cock !
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 3, 2021 21:20:50 GMT
I got raped. Happened a couple of times. Did you report these incidents? No, one in Borneo and the other when I was too young to realise what it was. Anyway, I chose not to be scarred by it. Much.
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Post by Trina on Oct 3, 2021 21:21:06 GMT
PS never knew shellfish words were seen as swearing...who knew ?🤔
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 21:21:36 GMT
Somebody once espoused to me the theory that coarse language actually gets more offensive, not less, as time passes. Which seems odd. Certainly Shakespeare found it best to use it in wordplay rather than have his characters openly insult one another, which seems to indicate there was perhaps never a time it was wholly acceptable. However I think we have the Victorian era to blame for amplifying its unacceptability. Also the exclusion of feminine terms while accepting the use of the male is pure hypocrisy. Interesting to note the old road name changes. I actually think that the cunt thing is quite an aggressive anti female move and that women who find it offensive are doing themselves a disservice. If it were normalised and became similar to saying "scum", which is linguistically quite a similar word but without the hard "t", it would do females a favour. I can't see how retaining the rudest word in the language and objecting to it, while everyone uses it anyway, can be in any way positive towards women. It is technically a very forceful word with the hard C, a deep UN and a definite and notable T to end it. Delivery is not complex. It is effective. Drives the message home. I wonder how younger women view it. Obviously I have no interest in older women but do have female children. their mother is happy to use the word as and when but then she is very non PC even more than me. I think a lot depends on tone and intent. You can call your dearest mate a rude name yet it is still clearly a term of endearment, and vice-versa.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 21:24:06 GMT
It’s perfectly ok to not like a word, obviously. The question is, is it ok to demand that other people don’t use that word in your company Because you don’t like it. If so, that is a somewhat untenable position because it means that anyone can demand of you that you must not use any random word that they find unacceptable in their company. Pretty hard to go along with. I really dislike slimy shellfishy things like oysters, mussels etc. Hate them, makes me want to puke just thinking about them. But if I went out for a meal with someone who wanted to eat them, I wouldn’t object. It’s all about whether one feels empowered to force ones own preferences and dislikes on others, or not. What a load of absolute...cock ! I'm deeply offended. Please do not use such a coarse and derogatory term on my most favourite internet forum that absolutely anybody can participate in.
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