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Post by kris on Oct 16, 2021 15:40:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 18:06:05 GMT
What are we looking at?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 18:07:51 GMT
It's all xlsx to me.
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Post by kris on Oct 16, 2021 20:24:22 GMT
It’s a freedom of information to request a list of the listed buildings that crt have sold. |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 16, 2021 20:50:00 GMT
What's the point you want to make ? Why publish it on here, without anything further added by way of explanation, if it's already on the WhatDoTheyKnow webpages ? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 21:14:42 GMT
What's the point you want to make ? Why publish it on here, without anything further added by way of explanation, if it's already on the WhatDoTheyKnow webpages ? Idiot…. |
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Post by kris on Oct 17, 2021 3:59:04 GMT
Just because you have difficulty in understanding Tony. It’s quite easy really try reading the words.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 17, 2021 5:27:18 GMT
Just because you have difficulty in understanding Tony. It’s quite easy really try reading the words. There aren't any words, . . just a list, . . of listed buildings. |
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Post by JohnV on Oct 17, 2021 6:13:53 GMT
I can't work out what you are getting at either kris.
the originasl canal companies, BW, BWB, CRT have always sold surplus property and because of the age of the system there is a very good chance many are going to be listed.
Any owner of a listed property will tell you that it is an expensive and restricting ball and chain. You cannot do anything to change it's use or looks without having inspectors crawling all over you and everything has to be repaired "in a traditional manner" which means it costs 5 times as much.
If you are talking about selling off vitally important bits of the system or particular buildings that are vital to the operation of the system or potentially required for any changes to usage then say so !!!
Whoever owns a listed property does not matter, it is still going to be there and the new owners will still have to adhere to the requirements.
It's a navigation authority not the National Trust, Historic England or English heritage.
If they can sell things that cost too much to maintain for the value they give and then use that money to keep the system navigable, then I'm all for it
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Post by kris on Oct 17, 2021 6:24:15 GMT
It’s called information make of it what you will. Now I’ve got much more interesting things to do than argue with the gimmers on here.
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Post by JohnV on Oct 17, 2021 6:26:15 GMT
It’s called information make of it what you will. Now I’ve got much more interesting things to do than argue with the gimmers on here. twat |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 17, 2021 6:35:51 GMT
I can't work out what you are getting at either kris. the originasl canal companies, BW, BWB, CRT have always sold surplus property and because of the age of the system there is a very good chance many are going to be listed. Any owner of a listed property will tell you that it is an expensive and restricting ball and chain. You cannot do anything to change it's use or looks without having inspectors crawling all over you and everything has to be repaired "in a traditional manner" which means it costs 5 times as much. If you are talking about selling off vitally important bits of the system or particular buildings that are vital to the operation of the system or potentially required for any changes to usage then say so !!! Whoever owns a listed property does not matter, it is still going to be there and the new owners will still have to adhere to the requirements. It's a navigation authority not the National Trust, Historic England or English heritage. If they can sell things that cost too much to maintain for the value they give and then use that money to keep the system navigable, then I'm all for it There is at least one more positive aspect to this, John, . . there's the comfort of knowing that those listed buildings have been rescued from the clutches of an organization that knackers up everything it gets its disastrous hands on ! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 7:26:26 GMT
It's a navigation authority not the National Trust, Historic England or English heritage. What a pity it isn't any of those organisations. |
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Post by JohnV on Oct 17, 2021 8:23:55 GMT
It's a navigation authority not the National Trust, Historic England or English heritage. What a pity it isn't any of those organisations. whatever the problems and failings of those other organisations they do seem to mostly fulfill their raison d'etre |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 8:44:22 GMT
The river Wey is quite an interesting example of a navigation managed by the National Trust.
All very tidy and no slums.
Of course not cheap to use a boat there but very pleasant.
Not sure it could be done nationally but breaking up the system and having some bits run by NT, some by English heritage, some private etc could work in theory.
That would remove the option for the cheap lifestyle but maybe that is not a priority overall.
It's intriguing to watch how it all unfolds and develops.
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