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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 18, 2021 19:19:31 GMT
Tony ... please. Nobody gives a stuff.This is like groundhog day. The link IS CLOSED in winter ... it's ALWAYS closed in winter ... it has ALWAYS been closed in winter. That's it. Rog Not according to those I've been in contact with today, . . none of whom were aware of your appointment as spokesman for all 30,000 odd holders of C&RT Pleasure Boat Licences. There is in fact considerable bad feeling with regard to first British Waterways, and now C&RT's, arbitrary Winter 6 month closures that not only severely reduce the total annual usage figures, but also add massively and unnecessarily to the annual dredging costs. The fear is that that the continuing unnecessarily large dredging bill will eventually be cited as cause for permanent closure to navigation, . . something that will delight the local environmental loonies.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 19, 2021 2:35:29 GMT
It could be humber rescue, they cover the River Hull, Trent, Ouse and the River Humber. If it is, as I said you call 999 and ask for the coastguard, who will call out humber rescue. It would have been Humber Rescue, who are based at Hessle, . . the rescue boat station is on Hessle foreshore, virtually under the North end of the bridge. In recent years they've fetched in an increasing number of canalboats that have got into trouble on the Ouse and the Trent, . . usually down to the boats and/or the crews not being up to the job, . . but sometimes complemented by inadequate, or just downright dangerous advice from useless C&RT lock keepers at Keadby, Selby or Naburn.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 27, 2021 8:23:56 GMT
The only reason for C&RT making tides a deciding factor in whether or not the trip from Tarleton to the Link and back is feasible. I presume Tony… That you do know that Roger and the lads at Mayors Yard Tarleton ( who ultimately have forgotten more about Ribble tides and crossings than than you will ever know!) have ultimate decision upon boats crossing the link & their decision has jack squit to do with CRT? Having spoken with Mayors' Yard yesterday, it's quite apparent that although decisions relating to the day to day operation of the lock remain with them, as it's always been in living memory and beyond, the C&RT's purely arbitrary edicts as to whether or not the so-called 'Ribble Link' itself is open to navigation do take ultimate precedence over any practical or operational considerations over tide times, lock operation, and river or weather conditions. In stark contrast with the data and info I already had from long ago, from both before and after Preston Docks closed to commercial shipping, or current operational data and info from other local sources, . . no information as to channel depths, widths or markings, or drying areas from Tarleton to the area around Asland Light was forthcoming from Mayors, . . or any information regarding suitable lay-over spots or anchorages between Tarleton and Preston to sit out the LW period.
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Post by Jim on Oct 27, 2021 10:27:26 GMT
I presume Tony… That you do know that Roger and the lads at Mayors Yard Tarleton ( who ultimately have forgotten more about Ribble tides and crossings than than you will ever know!) have ultimate decision upon boats crossing the link & their decision has jack squit to do with CRT? Having spoken with Mayors' Yard yesterday, it's quite apparent that although decisions relating to the day to day operation of the lock remain with them, as it's always been in living memory and beyond, the C&RT's purely arbitrary edicts as to whether or not the so-called 'Ribble Link' itself is open to navigation do take ultimate precedence over any practical or operational considerations over tide times, lock operation, and river or weather conditions. In stark contrast with the data and info I already had from long ago, from both before and after Preston Docks closed to commercial shipping, or current operational data and info from other local sources, . . no information as to channel depths, widths or markings, or drying areas from Tarleton to the area around Asland Light was forthcoming from Mayors, . . or any information regarding suitable lay-over spots or anchorages between Tarleton and Preston to sit out the LW period. Time to make a crossing with a chronometer and a lead line then, the boating world will be grateful for your efforts. Get a boat or I could lend you a pair of stilts. Or is the rumour that you can walk on water true?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 27, 2021 16:02:21 GMT
Having spoken with Mayors' Yard yesterday, it's quite apparent that although decisions relating to the day to day operation of the lock remain with them, as it's always been in living memory and beyond, the C&RT's purely arbitrary edicts as to whether or not the so-called 'Ribble Link' itself is open to navigation do take ultimate precedence over any practical or operational considerations over tide times, lock operation, and river or weather conditions. In stark contrast with the data and info I already had from long ago, from both before and after Preston Docks closed to commercial shipping, or current operational data and info from other local sources, . . no information as to channel depths, widths or markings, or drying areas from Tarleton to the area around Asland Light was forthcoming from Mayors, . . or any information regarding suitable lay-over spots or anchorages between Tarleton and Preston to sit out the LW period. Time to make a crossing with a chronometer and a lead line then, the boating world will be grateful for your efforts. Get a boat or I could lend you a pair of stilts. Or is the rumour that you can walk on water true? There are many things you have to keep a constant check on for the purposes of tidal river and estuary pilotage, . . but Longitude isn't one of them. I won't be taking up your offer of the loan of the stilts, . . the rumour you've heard IS true !
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Post by Jim on Oct 27, 2021 16:10:55 GMT
Time to make a crossing with a chronometer and a lead line then, the boating world will be grateful for your efforts. Get a boat or I could lend you a pair of stilts. Or is the rumour that you can walk on water true? There are many things you have to keep a constant check on for the purposes of tidal river and estuary pilotage, . . but Longitude isn't one of them. I won't be taking up your offer of the loan of the stilts, . . the rumour you've heard IS true ! Who mentioned longitude. I was suggesting logging the time against tide height, so it could be translated into time after high water or whatever. Surprised you didn't understand that. Be careful where you walk on water btw, you'll need a rivers only licence for each shoe.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 28, 2021 8:33:29 GMT
There are many things you have to keep a constant check on for the purposes of tidal river and estuary pilotage, . . but Longitude isn't one of them. I won't be taking up your offer of the loan of the stilts, . . the rumour you've heard IS true ! Who mentioned longitude. I was suggesting logging the time against tide height, so it could be translated into time after high water or whatever. Surprised you didn't understand that. Be careful where you walk on water btw, you'll need a rivers only licence for each shoe. Chronometers aren't instruments for mundane everyday time keeping. Their primary, and strictly speaking only proper function, is or rather was, to carry 'Greenwich Time' onboard a vessel at sea anywhere in the world in order to determine the vessel's longitude by the difference between the ship's own time - Noon - when the Sun is at its highest and the time at Greenwich. Every 4 minutes difference in the two equals one degree of longitude East or West of the Greenwich Meridian. There's no such thing as a 'Rivers only Licence', . . it's purely a figment of C&RT's corporate warped imagination.
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Post by Jim on Oct 28, 2021 8:47:09 GMT
Who mentioned longitude. I was suggesting logging the time against tide height, so it could be translated into time after high water or whatever. Surprised you didn't understand that. Be careful where you walk on water btw, you'll need a rivers only licence for each shoe. Chronometers aren't instruments for mundane everyday time keeping. Their primary, and strictly speaking only proper function, is or rather was, to carry 'Greenwich Time' onboard a vessel at sea anywhere in the world in order to determine the vessel's longitude by the difference between the ship's own time - Noon - when the Sun is at its highest and the time at Greenwich. Every 4 minutes difference in the two equals one degree of longitude East or West of the Greenwich Meridian. There's no such thing as a 'Rivers only Licence', . . it's purely a figment of C&RT's corporate warped imagination. I know, I read the book about Harrison. Now superseded by a £5 timex. As for the ROL for your shoes..... Hook line and sinker. Chortle.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 28, 2021 9:05:28 GMT
Chronometers aren't instruments for mundane everyday time keeping. Their primary, and strictly speaking only proper function, is or rather was, to carry 'Greenwich Time' onboard a vessel at sea anywhere in the world in order to determine the vessel's longitude by the difference between the ship's own time - Noon - when the Sun is at its highest and the time at Greenwich. Every 4 minutes difference in the two equals one degree of longitude East or West of the Greenwich Meridian. There's no such thing as a 'Rivers only Licence', . . it's purely a figment of C&RT's corporate warped imagination. I know, I read the book about Harrison. Now superseded by a £5 timex. As for the ROL for your shoes..... Hook line and sinker. Chortle. You didn't read "the book about Harrison" well enough. He didn't ever make any chronometers, . . that was down to others, many years later, . . a progression from Harrison's 'lesser' watch, and his preceding enormous 'timepieces', or clocks. Did you really think my answer about the 'Rivers only Licence' was to be taken seriously ? Chortle, chortle !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 9:27:04 GMT
I presume Tony… That you do know that Roger and the lads at Mayors Yard Tarleton ( who ultimately have forgotten more about Ribble tides and crossings than than you will ever know!) have ultimate decision upon boats crossing the link & their decision has jack squit to do with CRT? ...no information as to channel depths...was forthcoming from Mayors... You don't mean...they hung up on you? It's an outrage. I'm shocked.
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Post by Jim on Oct 28, 2021 12:18:26 GMT
...no information as to channel depths...was forthcoming from Mayors... You don't mean...they hung up on you? It's an outrage. I'm shocked. Imagine the conversation, "do you know who I am?" To which Mayor's receptionist replied "No but your nurse will know your name if you've forgotten"
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