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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 17:43:06 GMT
Nightmare, decided I could tackle the Barrowford locks today, it's not easy, and the first few were desperately slow, I asked CRT if anyone was in the area, to put me through a couple, as it's a pretty bad area. Shove comes to push and at the, ie the top lock, just I managed to jam tiller, in the rear doors, I suppose. There was an almighty bang, the rudder is still there, but the tiller can rotate 180, I think. There is no hole in the rudder tab for steering ropes. I have hardly seen a boat for a week. So I need a good boatyard to sort this, not sure if it needs to come out? PS, its, I'm in the lock, it's full, seems to be holding water.
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Post by patty on Nov 11, 2021 17:44:56 GMT
Nightmare, decided I could tackle the Barrowford locks today, it's not easy, and the first few were desperately slow, I asked CRT if anyone was in the area, to put me through a couple, as it's a pretty bad area. Shove comes to push and at the, ie the top lock, just I managed to jam tiller, in the rear doors, I suppose. There was an almighty bang, the rudder is still there, but the tiller can rotate 180, I think. There is no hole in the rudder tab for steering ropes. I have hardly seen a boat for a week. So I need a good boatyard to sort this, not sure if it needs to come out? PS, its, I'm in the lock, it's full, seems to be holding water. That sounds bad.... take a deep breath..then another.. If I was closer I'd come... Take care/stay safe and keep us updated xx
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 17:47:53 GMT
If the rudder tiller isn’t doing as it should then I would drag out the lock with rope and tie up on lock landing, should be ok for tonight as would imagine not many boats moving, wouldn’t really be happy sitting in a lock overnight
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 18:07:23 GMT
If the rudder tiller isn’t doing as it should then I would drag out the lock with rope and tie up on lock landing, should be ok for tonight as would imagine not many boats moving, wouldn’t really be happy sitting in a lock overnight Well, the reason I did not stop previously is that there are no lock landings, nowhere to moor. There is a road on one side that had a run of heavy lorries, which is why I was not willing to moor up previously. What makes me mad is that my planning schedule ie, do difficult bits in summer when lockies and other boats are available, that went down a sinkhole and it's taking months to backtrack, to get clear of litter strewn Burnley, now broken down. It's pitch dark outside, soft sloping verges, not a ideal situation.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 11, 2021 18:21:50 GMT
If the rudder tiller isn’t doing as it should then I would drag out the lock with rope and tie up on lock landing, should be ok for tonight as would imagine not many boats moving, wouldn’t really be happy sitting in a lock overnight Well, the reason I did not stop previously is that there are no lock landings. There is a road on one side that had a run of heavy lorries, which is why I was not willing to moor up at 4. 30 Dave's right, . . first priority is to get the boat out of the lock and tied up in the summit pound. Whatever you do, DON'T stay in the lock overnight -- it's too risky. If the lock starts draining down whilst you're asleep you could well end up turning an inconvenience into a disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 18:54:31 GMT
Well, the reason I did not stop previously is that there are no lock landings. There is a road on one side that had a run of heavy lorries, which is why I was not willing to moor up at 4. 30 Dave's right, . . first priority is to get the boat out of the lock and tied up in the summit pound. Whatever you do, DON'T stay in the lock overnight -- it's too risky. If the lock starts draining down whilst you're asleep you could well end up turning an inconvenience into a disaster. Well, I'm not sure how to get out, as I say, it's very slippery, grass slopes, there are no bollards, previously I ve been tying my stern to the posts that support the screw things that open the side paddles. I m not convinced. I'll l go out with a torch, but as I say, its pitch black, and light rain. Now out, tx all, esp passerby who soon did the manual work.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 11, 2021 19:09:03 GMT
Dave's right, . . first priority is to get the boat out of the lock and tied up in the summit pound. Whatever you do, DON'T stay in the lock overnight -- it's too risky. If the lock starts draining down whilst you're asleep you could well end up turning an inconvenience into a disaster. Well, I'm not sure how to get out, as I say, it's very slippery, grass slopes, there are no bollards, previously I ve been tying my stern to the posts that support the screw things that open the side paddles. I m not convinced. I'll l go out with a torch, but as I say, its pitch black, and light rain. Don't bother getting clear of the lock -- just get out of it -- close the towpath side top gate a tie up either with the stern against the gates or tucked into the corner of the towpath side wall immediately above the lock and tie the stern to the fence. Use the stern rope to pull the boat out of the lock -- make the eye end of it into a Cow Hitch on one of the dollies [so it doesn't slip off] -- and don't bother about where the bows go or finish up -- just get the stern end secured against the wall, so you can get on off. You can get sorted out and tied up properly in daylight tomorrow morning. If you call me now on 07903 063179 I'll talk you through what you need to do just so as you're safe overnight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 19:40:25 GMT
Well, I'm not sure how to get out, as I say, it's very slippery, grass slopes, there are no bollards, previously I ve been tying my stern to the posts that support the screw things that open the side paddles. I m not convinced. I'll l go out with a torch, but as I say, its pitch black, and light rain. Don't bother getting clear of the lock -- just get out of it -- close the towpath side top gate a tie up either with the stern against the gates or tucked into the corner of the towpath side wall immediately above the lock and tie the stern to the fence. Use the stern rope to pull the boat out of the lock -- make the eye end of it into a Cow Hitch on one of the dollies [so it doesn't slip off] -- and don't bother about where the bows go or finish up -- just get the stern end secured against the wall, so you can get on off. If you call me now on 07903 063179 I'll talk you through what you need to do to be safe overnight. Thanks TD, managed fine, secured to a roadside bollard and a pin, will be fine overnight as the wind is favourable, fairly steady breeze.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 11, 2021 20:01:17 GMT
Don't bother getting clear of the lock -- just get out of it -- close the towpath side top gate a tie up either with the stern against the gates or tucked into the corner of the towpath side wall immediately above the lock and tie the stern to the fence. Use the stern rope to pull the boat out of the lock -- make the eye end of it into a Cow Hitch on one of the dollies [so it doesn't slip off] -- and don't bother about where the bows go or finish up -- just get the stern end secured against the wall, so you can get on off. If you call me now on 07903 063179 I'll talk you through what you need to do to be safe overnight. Thanks TD, managed fine, secured to a roadside bollard and a pin, will be fine overnight as the wind is favourable, fairly steady breeze. From how you described what happened to the rudder whilst you were rising in the lock, it sounds as if your boat might have a tubular section between the main part of the rudder and the balance, with the rudder stock passing up through the tubular part and locked to it with a bolt. If so, then catching the rudder on the bottom gates as the boat was rising has probably sheared the (locking) bolt. Have you ever seen the boat out of the water, . . or have you got any photos of the stern end taken when it was last out ?
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Post by kris on Nov 11, 2021 20:04:14 GMT
Well, I'm not sure how to get out, as I say, it's very slippery, grass slopes, there are no bollards, previously I ve been tying my stern to the posts that support the screw things that open the side paddles. I m not convinced. I'll l go out with a torch, but as I say, its pitch black, and light rain. If you call me now on 07903 063179 I'll call you back in three weeks.. That sounds about right.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 20:46:41 GMT
If you call me now on 07903 063179 I'll call you back in three weeks.. That sounds about right. Sorry Kris - I’m going to call that out as a bit of a shit post - Socks has has some decent and prompt advice; other threads are available to jab each other in the kidneys.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 21:07:04 GMT
Agree ... getting @socks sorted is what matters ... leave the tit for tat for other threads.
Rog
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 11, 2021 21:39:49 GMT
Agree ... getting @socks sorted is what matters ... leave the tit for tat for other threads. Rog "Tit for tat" -- interesting turn of phrase, . . given the circumstances !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 22:47:10 GMT
I'll need to get a boatyard to sort it out, most likely need a tow, there are tunnels ahead, I don't expect a diver can sort it, I ve no idea of the design, it's a Tyler Wilson. I remember phoning him about something when I first got the boat, he doesn't do customer service.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 0:09:51 GMT
Earlier I wondered about the possibility of lashing a steering oar to the tiller / swan-neck.
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