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Post by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2021 23:27:55 GMT
… have one for my caravan at the gliding club, but I think it’s a fairly common Boatie generator. Anyway although I’ve had it for perhaps 5 years, it doesn’t get much use. Solar panels cope in summer. Maybe gets run 10 or 20 times per year, for an hour or two.
I do sometimes use it in the summer for running the microwave (to heat up my soup) and in winter on arrival to run a 1kw fan heater whilst the gas heater is warming up.
Recently it started running badly under heavy load, it would splutter a bit and belch out quite a smoke-screen for a few seconds, then run fine for perhaps 10 seconds, then repeat.
So tonight I thought I’d better have a look at it. First thing, hmmm why is it that when I take the dipstick out, lots of oil pisses out. And secondly, why does that oil seem very thin and smell of petrol!?
Yes petrol getting into the oil, and the likely culprit is the diaphragm fuel pump - pressure pulses from the crankcase operates a diaphragm which pumps the fuel to the carb. Oil drained, changed, things cleaned out, run again and yes a few drips of petrol appeared when I detached the pipe from the crankcase. Grrrr, new fuel pump required - £30! But cheaper than a seized engine!
There is of course a low oil level alarm/shut off, but if the oil is slowly getting replaced with petrol then this isn’t going to work. So my moral is to regularly check the oil level AND the smell of it, rather than relying on the low oil level shut off.
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Post by JohnV on Nov 14, 2021 10:20:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 14:25:16 GMT
… have one for my caravan at the gliding club, but I think it’s a fairly common Boatie generator. Anyway although I’ve had it for perhaps 5 years, it doesn’t get much use. Solar panels cope in summer. Maybe gets run 10 or 20 times per year, for an hour or two. I do sometimes use it in the summer for running the microwave (to heat up my soup) and in winter on arrival to run a 1kw fan heater whilst the gas heater is warming up. Recently it started running badly under heavy load, it would splutter a bit and belch out quite a smoke-screen for a few seconds, then run fine for perhaps 10 seconds, then repeat. So tonight I thought I’d better have a look at it. First thing, hmmm why is it that when I take the dipstick out, lots of oil pisses out. And secondly, why does that oil seem very thin and smell of petrol!? Yes petrol getting into the oil, and the likely culprit is the diaphragm fuel pump - pressure pulses from the crankcase operates a diaphragm which pumps the fuel to the carb. Oil drained, changed, things cleaned out, run again and yes a few drips of petrol appeared when I detached the pipe from the crankcase. Grrrr, new fuel pump required - £30! But cheaper than a seized engine! There is of course a low oil level alarm/shut off, but if the oil is slowly getting replaced with petrol then this isn’t going to work. So my moral is to regularly check the oil level AND the smell of it, rather than relying on the low oil level shut off. Possible victim of E10 fuel? |
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Post by thebfg on Nov 14, 2021 14:48:30 GMT
That was my first thoughts, as well.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 14, 2021 19:36:26 GMT
… have one for my caravan at the gliding club, but I think it’s a fairly common Boatie generator. Anyway although I’ve had it for perhaps 5 years, it doesn’t get much use. Solar panels cope in summer. Maybe gets run 10 or 20 times per year, for an hour or two. I do sometimes use it in the summer for running the microwave (to heat up my soup) and in winter on arrival to run a 1kw fan heater whilst the gas heater is warming up. Recently it started running badly under heavy load, it would splutter a bit and belch out quite a smoke-screen for a few seconds, then run fine for perhaps 10 seconds, then repeat. So tonight I thought I’d better have a look at it. First thing, hmmm why is it that when I take the dipstick out, lots of oil pisses out. And secondly, why does that oil seem very thin and smell of petrol!? Yes petrol getting into the oil, and the likely culprit is the diaphragm fuel pump - pressure pulses from the crankcase operates a diaphragm which pumps the fuel to the carb. Oil drained, changed, things cleaned out, run again and yes a few drips of petrol appeared when I detached the pipe from the crankcase. Grrrr, new fuel pump required - £30! But cheaper than a seized engine! There is of course a low oil level alarm/shut off, but if the oil is slowly getting replaced with petrol then this isn’t going to work. So my moral is to regularly check the oil level AND the smell of it, rather than relying on the low oil level shut off. Possible victim of E10 fuel? Good thought, but no I haven’t bought any fuel for it this year, or at least not since early spring. I don’t use the genny over the summer - the solar copes. Last time I ran it hard was in the spring, when the problem was first noticed. It’s just that I’ve put it on the round tuit list ever since! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2021 13:23:46 GMT
I tried e10 in my kipor, it didn’t like it at all. Ran really rough. Drained it and filled with premium, all good.
I also think the e10 fucked my chainsaw. Binned and bought a new one that supposedly runs on e10, but I’ll stick to premium.
This e10 is getting bad feedback everywhere.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 15, 2021 13:24:54 GMT
I tried e10 in my kipor, it didn’t like it at all. Ran really rough. Drained it and filled with premium, all good. I also think the e10 fucked my chainsaw. Binned and bought a new one that supposedly runs on e10, but I’ll stick to premium. This e10 is getting bad feedback everywhere. Which is odd because it’s been used in Europe for quite a while, presumably with the same generators, chainsaws etc we have here. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2021 13:36:04 GMT
I tried e10 in my kipor, it didn’t like it at all. Ran really rough. Drained it and filled with premium, all good. I also think the e10 fucked my chainsaw. Binned and bought a new one that supposedly runs on e10, but I’ll stick to premium. This e10 is getting bad feedback everywhere. Which is odd because it’s been used in Europe for quite a while, presumably with the same generators, chainsaws etc we have here. Yes it is odd. My kipor is relatively new, so I thought it would be fine, but as soon as I put the e10 in, it started back firing and pinking. I think e10 is just not suitable for carbs, but ok with injectors. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2021 14:13:34 GMT
I tried e10 in my kipor, it didn’t like it at all. Ran really rough. Drained it and filled with premium, all good. I also think the e10 fucked my chainsaw. Binned and bought a new one that supposedly runs on e10, but I’ll stick to premium. This e10 is getting bad feedback everywhere. But but but! Mr Stabby tells us there is no difference between premium and cooking fuels  I wont buy weasel piss petrol for anything of mine - a hire vehicle will get the cooking stuff but that's it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2021 14:32:22 GMT
I tried e10 in my kipor, it didn’t like it at all. Ran really rough. Drained it and filled with premium, all good. I also think the e10 fucked my chainsaw. Binned and bought a new one that supposedly runs on e10, but I’ll stick to premium. This e10 is getting bad feedback everywhere. But but but! Mr Stabby tells us there is no difference between premium and cooking fuels Well, I don’t tend to drink the stuff, and I doubt you do either. Stabby obviously has strange taste buds, along with his immoral behaviour. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 15, 2021 23:22:53 GMT
I tried e10 in my kipor, it didn’t like it at all. Ran really rough. Drained it and filled with premium, all good. I also think the e10 fucked my chainsaw. Binned and bought a new one that supposedly runs on e10, but I’ll stick to premium. This e10 is getting bad feedback everywhere. But but but! Mr Stabby tells us there is no difference between premium and cooking fuels I wont buy weasel piss petrol for anything of mine - a hire vehicle will get the cooking stuff but that's it. The base fuel itself is the same, loaded from the same source at the refinery. The only difference is in the additives, detergents etc added during loading. Do a search on TruckNet and you'll find petrol tanker drivers who have confirmed this in numerous posts. These additives will improve performance but then so will additives you dose the fuel with yourself. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 10:49:52 GMT
But but but! Mr Stabby tells us there is no difference between premium and cooking fuels I wont buy weasel piss petrol for anything of mine - a hire vehicle will get the cooking stuff but that's it. The base fuel itself is the same, loaded from the same source at the refinery. The only difference is in the additives, detergents etc added during loading. Do a search on TruckNet and you'll find petrol tanker drivers who have confirmed this in numerous posts. These additives will improve performance but then so will additives you dose the fuel with yourself. Weirdly the manual for my Ford Kuga diesel states you should not use fuel additives in the tank. But when I buy Shell, Esso or BP fuel, which I generally do, they already have additives included. If you took the manual literally you would only buy supermarket fuel. It is alleged that the additives in non supermarket fuels help keep EGR valves, DPF's and injectors in a good state of health which is why I tend to use them. Yes it is more expensive but if I offset the cost against potentially expensive repairs I think its worth it. My local Shell garage is charging around 5p a litre more for Diesel than our local Asda. Of course Im lucky as I can afford the difference, high mileage users on a low income might struggle to justify the extra cost or some will genuinely not be able to afford it week after week, but if that is the case they wont be able to afford a new DPF either. |
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