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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 19:42:13 GMT
kris Yes good description. I remember him from when he was MP for Henley. Henley is packed to the rafters with twats and he fitted right in. Would have been about 2007 at the festival. He was doing a sort of stand up thing for the crowd. Incredibly not funny jokes and people were laughing. It was quite grim and I assumed there were some big signs saying "laugh" but maybe that's the reality. I've never interacted in Henley other than occasional beer acquisition. It's quite a nice geographical location but to quote Tony rather vomit inducing locals.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 8, 2021 19:46:11 GMT
This is a complete non-sequitur. I am a Covid denier, same as I am a God denier. I will believe in something for which there is evidence sufficient to constitute proof. You are the blind adherent here. You are the one who has "faith" in the absence of any evidence whatsoever. You lead a fairly solitary life, you have a fairly solitary job, you don’t get around people much. Therefore it can’t be too surprising that you have no direct experience of covid. Whereas I have a number of medical friends and Jeff has more, and they have all seen covid patients, many have seen them die of it and it’s been pretty gruelling for them. Just because you haven’t personally seen anyone with covid is purely a consequence of you lifestyle. But to claim that because you haven’t seen covid and therefore it’s all fake, in the face of evidence from the rest of the world and from people who have been struggling with it and with helping people with it, is obscene. I am in direct contact with- i.e. to talk to- around 50 or 60 people every day. And you? How many of these three people you know do you encounter on a daily basis?
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Post by kris on Dec 8, 2021 19:48:17 GMT
kris Yes good description. I remember him from when he was MP for Henley. Henley is packed to the rafters with twats and he fitted right in. Would have been about 2007 at the festival. He was doing a sort of stand up thing for the crowd. Incredibly not funny jokes and people were laughing. It was quite grim and I assumed there were some big signs saying "laugh" but maybe that's the reality. I've never interacted in Henley other than occasional beer acquisition. It's quite a nice geographical location but to quote Tony rather vomit inducing locals. He’s the classic case of it’s not what you know, but who you know and what school you went to. It’s about time we had a different approach to governance in this country. I was thinking if you started a party with just one set aim. For the legalisation of marijuana for instance, then I think you could win, but then you would have the headache of all the other issues.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 19:48:38 GMT
Believes no evidence of Covid = loony. I believe you are the member who has admitted to a long history of mental health issues? And a piss head.
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 8, 2021 19:49:34 GMT
The fact that you Telemachus have aligned this whole thing with religious fundamentalist beliefs indicates a hook line and sinker situation and any further comment from you will not be made from an open minded position. It's really bad shit to compare those two, really bad. Bad as in not good. Don't do that No it’s not. Believing in some imaginary god is popular in the human race, by far the majority do. But you and I know that god almost certainly doesn’t exist and the people who believe in it from “faith” (and indoctrination) are a bit foolish. And certainly not consistent with their fellows who also believe in god - but a completely different one with different rules. Whilst they are all adamant that THEIR version of god is the right one. That sort of thing is part of the human condition, and it causes a lot of trouble! The covid deniers follow a similar thought process, albeit superficially opposite. Despite masses of evidence to the contrary they have read somewhere that it doesn’t exist and they decided to believe that outlying piece of “evidence” and totally disregard the 99.9% of evidence that refutes their beliefs. It’s weird, not rational and there is no point in trying to convince them of the error of their ways.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 8, 2021 19:50:17 GMT
It was Abraham Lincoln who said “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.” and it's nice to see that we have some of the people in tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 19:50:19 GMT
I believe you are the member who has admitted to a long history of mental health issues? And a piss head. Recovered from that as well.
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 8, 2021 19:51:01 GMT
You lead a fairly solitary life, you have a fairly solitary job, you don’t get around people much. Therefore it can’t be too surprising that you have no direct experience of covid. Whereas I have a number of medical friends and Jeff has more, and they have all seen covid patients, many have seen them die of it and it’s been pretty gruelling for them. Just because you haven’t personally seen anyone with covid is purely a consequence of you lifestyle. But to claim that because you haven’t seen covid and therefore it’s all fake, in the face of evidence from the rest of the world and from people who have been struggling with it and with helping people with it, is obscene. I am in direct contact with- i.e. to talk to- around 50 or 60 people every day. And you? How many of these three people you know do you encounter on a daily basis? Three of them. Maybe four. Except that two of them are imaginary.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 19:51:06 GMT
This is a complete non-sequitur. I am a Covid denier, same as I am a God denier. I will believe in something for which there is evidence sufficient to constitute proof. You are the blind adherent here. You are the one who has "faith" in the absence of any evidence whatsoever. Whereas I have a number of medical friends 3?
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 8, 2021 19:51:49 GMT
Whereas I have a number of medical friends 3? Three is a number.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 8, 2021 19:54:45 GMT
To say that you know a Doctor who sees a lot of Covid is a bit like saying that you know a train driver who sees lots of railway tracks.
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 8, 2021 19:57:46 GMT
To say that you know a Doctor who sees a lot of Covid is a bit like saying that you know a train driver who sees lots of railway tracks. It isn’t if you think covid doesn’t exist. A train driver see lots of railway tracks because they exist. A doctor sees a lot patients with covid because it exists.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 19:59:47 GMT
To say that you know a Doctor who sees a lot of Covid is a bit like saying that you know a train driver who sees lots of railway tracks. That’s a bit out of context, well, off the rails anyway.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 8, 2021 20:05:01 GMT
To say that you know a Doctor who sees a lot of Covid is a bit like saying that you know a train driver who sees lots of railway tracks. It isn’t if you think covid doesn’t exist. A train driver see lots of railway tracks because they exist. A doctor sees a lot patients with covid because it exists. I've never said Covid doesn't exist. I've said it is akin to the common cold or a moderate influenza outbreak, that the effects have been grossly exaggerated and that the actions being taken will prove far more harmful than the virus. Aegrescit medendo for those who did Latin at proper school. There's no point denying that this is my position, other members have read my posts on numerous occasions. Just your need to deliberately falsify and mis-represent my viewpoint loses the argument for you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 20:09:44 GMT
I’m never quite sure whether you really are a covid denier or whether you just like the attention, but if the former I am wasting my time with rational argument, I might as well be arguing with an Islamic extremist who is about to blow people up by informing him that his god doesn’t exist and he isn’t about to go to heaven with all those virgins. This is a complete non-sequitur. I am a Covid denier, same as I am a God denier. I will believe in something for which there is evidence sufficient to constitute proof. You are the blind adherent here. You are the one who has "faith" in the absence of any evidence whatsoever. What proof would satisfy you?
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