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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 14:51:09 GMT
I bet he is going to say it's all a waste of time and just causes things like this to happen. Legend illegible. Tell us the story.
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Post by twerp2 (Asleep) on Jun 29, 2022 15:03:40 GMT
It ran out of water.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 15:05:53 GMT
I bet he is going to say it's all a waste of time and just causes things like this to happen. Legend illegible. Tell us the story. The Princess May. Old steam liner that went aground quite badly. I like old steam liners. The coaling and burning thing is excellent. It will have been a tidal waterway.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 29, 2022 15:21:40 GMT
"What exactly is the point of electric cars from a pragmatic viewpoint? And: do (better off) people buy them just to virtue signal?
If you have to use a car in a ULEZ zone maybe they have a point (as long as you can find somewhere to charge it) but otherwise?
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Save the planet? No (stopping UK pollution won’t make an iota of difference).
Save money? No (a new one will cost more than double a conventional car equivalent and cheap running costs are at the whim of Government).
More convenient? No (are you having a laugh?!).
Elegant engineering solution to a nebulous problem? (Oh please – since when was dragging 750Kgs of expensive dead weight, and rare earth minerals mined by child labour, a good idea?!)
Warm glow from being seen to be “Doing my bit to help the Greens”? YES, that’s it (you are a TWAT with too much money!)"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 15:28:11 GMT
Is this from IAC?
I reckon the principle of driving a vehicle by an electric motor makes a lot of sense but as everyone knows the battery situation is complicated.
Yes we have the lithium ones but it's a dead cert that these will not end up being the things powering the cars in future. Something far more efficient and effective will come along.
For the time being the lithium batteries are very exciting.
A bit heavy though which means more tyre wear = more particulates specially the nasty type.
Not all that wonderful.
If only people were driven by practicality rather than greed things could be a whole lot different.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 15:32:51 GMT
Surely the 'point' is that everyone's entitled to spend their own money on what they choose without having to justify it to anyone.
Rog
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Post by greenman on Jun 29, 2022 15:43:39 GMT
That's me just nursed the boat back to my home mooring. Thanks for the replies so far. I thought about electric as my home mooring has a shoreline, also quite a few visitor moorings have shorelines on the lowland canals. Between that and solar (maybe a genny) I think I could bimble round the system as it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 15:52:48 GMT
If your diesel is properly nackered and you have the infrastructure available it does sound like a sensible option to haul it out and get an inboard electric.
There arrr one or two companies doing drop in replacements but not sure how much they are.
Interesting area of the market definitely due to get some demand kicking in soon.
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Post by greenman on Jun 29, 2022 15:56:48 GMT
I think cost will be the big thing with a bespoke system. I did see one advertised for about £15k. Been looking at other electric motors, wondering if they could be adapted.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 16:00:16 GMT
A helped a friend strip out the motor and control gear from a G-Wiz electric car a while ago. He got it all mated up to a gearbox (I told him to use belts but he wouldn't listen). Boat still not in water so not sure if it will work but the motor in the little car was a very nice item. Was only a few hundred quid for the car as it was not roadworthy. There are quite a lot of motor options around but I believe it would take a certain amount of tinkering and flexibility to get it to work properly. JohnV did an electric narrow boat years ago using a forklift truck motor. Batteries have advanced but it's still worth considering gel batteries from a cost point of view. Lithium is wicked but expensive.
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Post by greenman on Jun 29, 2022 16:04:19 GMT
I seem to recall reading somewhere that traction batteries were the thing to go for.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 17:42:02 GMT
There is a bespoke system which uses traction batts, they plug an auto-watering system quite heavily.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 17:49:01 GMT
Sonnenschein gel batteries are good.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 17:53:51 GMT
Sonnenschein gel batteries are good. A tad pricey though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 17:55:43 GMT
Not as costly as well made quality lithium batteries with the right management systems though.
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