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Post by Saltysplash on Oct 30, 2016 10:21:49 GMT
He's run out of electric to charge his PC
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 10:23:11 GMT
He's run out of electric to charge his PC πππ
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 10:47:37 GMT
That is the same manual that I posted about 6 posts back. The voltage is not adjustable other than for Wet, Sealed or Gel. There is no facility described in the manual to change the 14.4V Wet voltage to 14.8V.
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 10:48:03 GMT
He's run out of electric to charge his PC ππππ
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 30, 2016 10:49:57 GMT
Thanks it seems buying a 12v Trojan may be the way to go. It's only an extra 60 quid or so. Thanks for the heads up on adjusting the Tracer, I'll look into this, once I've decided for sure. I'm on the upper Macclesfield.
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 11:13:58 GMT
Thanks it seems buying a 12v Trojan may be the way to go. It's only an extra 60 quid or so. Thanks for the heads up on adjusting the Tracer, I'll look into this, once I've decided for sure. I'm on the upper Macclesfield. Ricco, I don't think or believe your batteries are being fully or properly charged and the reason is that you have no accurate way of measuring what is going on. Something like www.cactusnav.com/nasa-marine-clipper-battery-monitor-p-7117.html will help to cure the problems. It is not the best but it will give you an idea of what you are using and more importantly what is actually going into the battery and that important less than 1A figure for the end of full charge indication. I really do not believe it would be a good idea to spend extra money on Trojans until the charging routine is sorted out and measurable. All that will happen to the Trojan is within months it will have sulphated and died because it is being undercharged. The most important thing I think you need to do is buy ordinary leisure battery and get the best battery monitor you can so you can beat the undercharge gremlin.
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 11:21:12 GMT
Ricco you have a PM
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Post by cuthound on Oct 30, 2016 11:36:51 GMT
Thanks it seems buying a 12v Trojan may be the way to go. It's only an extra 60 quid or so. Thanks for the heads up on adjusting the Tracer, I'll look into this, once I've decided for sure. I'm on the upper Macclesfield. Ricco, I don't think or believe your batteries are being fully or properly charged and the reason is that you have no accurate way of measuring what is going on. Something like www.cactusnav.com/nasa-marine-clipper-battery-monitor-p-7117.html will help to cure the problems. It is not the best but it will give you an idea of what you are using and more importantly what is actually going into the battery and that important less than 1A figure for the end of full charge indication. I really do not believe it would be a good idea to spend extra money on Trojans until the charging routine is sorted out and measurable. All that will happen to the Trojan is within months it will have sulphated and died because it is being undercharged. The most important thing I think you need to do is buy ordinary leisure battery and get the best battery monitor you can so you can beat the undercharge gremlin. Sound advice. Make sure you know how to recognise a fully charged battery and have the equipment to correctly charge them before investing in quality batteries. If you don't do this, you will find that expensive batteries are just as quickly ruined as cheap ones.
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 11:39:07 GMT
Ricco, I don't think or believe your batteries are being fully or properly charged and the reason is that you have no accurate way of measuring what is going on. Something likeΒ www.cactusnav.com/nasa-marine-clipper-battery-monitor-p-7117.html will help to cure the problems. It is not the best but it will give you an idea of what you are using and more importantly what is actually going into the battery and that important less than 1A figure for the end of full charge indication. Like this, you mean? ... I use the ammeter on the meter to work out when they are fully charged. That is, less than 1 amp plus any loads.
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 11:43:54 GMT
Ricco, I don't think or believe your batteries are being fully or properly charged and the reason is that you have no accurate way of measuring what is going on. Something like www.cactusnav.com/nasa-marine-clipper-battery-monitor-p-7117.html will help to cure the problems. It is not the best but it will give you an idea of what you are using and more importantly what is actually going into the battery and that important less than 1A figure for the end of full charge indication. Like this, you mean? ... I use the ammeter on the meter to work out when they are fully charged. That is, less than 1 amp plus any loads. On the mains charger NO
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 11:50:58 GMT
What do you think this means then? I charged the battery yesterday as I do every day, when there is insufficient solar. I did it with the genny and when I switched it off 1.5 amps were going into the 110 AH battery. Not quite fully charged, but not far off.Β Β Β
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Post by smileypete on Oct 30, 2016 11:52:48 GMT
"6 β Setting Button (in manual mode used for load ON/OFF) Set load work mode and select battery type." A little primitive admittedly, but it gives the user a small choice But that's not going to change 14.4V to 14.8V which is what was being talked about as optimal for Trojans That's not what you said originally though. Anyway Trojans benefit from periodic EQ at 15.5V so 14.8V alone is not optimal. Personally I think the suggestions to buy Trojans may be a little misguided but if Ricco wants them that's fine by me. If Ricco had bought a non sealed leisure batt, and had charged it sufficiently with the existing kit I'm sure he'd not be in this situation. The Tracer can go up to 14.6V which should help subject to the above warnings etc.
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 11:54:57 GMT
But that's not going to change 14.4V to 14.8V which is what was being talked about as optimal for Trojans Trojans benefit from periodic EQ at 15.5V so 14.8V alone is not optimal. Personally I think the suggestions to buy Trojans may be a little misguided but if Ricco wants them that's fine by me. I kinda agree, but 'standard' leisure batteries are so shit that they tend to die in 12 months whatever you do. It appears from Ricco's posts that he's been fully charging them so maybe he'll have better luck with a quality battery.
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Post by smileypete on Oct 30, 2016 12:10:37 GMT
I'd say 80-90% of all batt problems are mostly due to improper charging, see my edit.
Buying sealed leisures for off grid use by non super-experts just about guarantees problems, see CWDF links.
Anyway he reckons he's using 10Ah a night, hardly a big user... his money though.
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 12:14:13 GMT
But that's not going to change 14.4V to 14.8V which is what was being talked about as optimal for Trojans That's not what you said originally though. Sure it is. I said it wasn't adjustable. It isn't. There are three selectable presets, none of which are adjustable.
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