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Post by smileypete on Oct 30, 2016 12:16:14 GMT
That's not what you said originally though.  Sure it is. I said it wasn't adjustable. It isn't. There are three selectable presets, none of which are adjustable. Jesus wept!  |
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 12:18:43 GMT
Trojans benefit from periodic EQ at 15.5V so 14.8V alone is not optimal. Personally I think the suggestions to buy Trojans may be a little misguided but if Ricco wants them that's fine by me. I kinda agree, but 'standard' leisure batteries are so shit that they tend to die in 12 months whatever you do. It appears from Ricco's posts that he's been fully charging them so maybe he'll have better luck with a quality battery. So why the change of mind from pushing Trojan T105s hard. You mean you finally listened to the OP after others investigated. Trying to take the credit lol It has never appeared that Ricco was fully charging his batteries |
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 12:22:19 GMT
What do you think this means then? I charged the battery yesterday as I do every day, when there is insufficient solar. I did it with the genny and when I switched it off 1.5 amps were going into the 110 AH battery. Not quite fully charged, but not far off. Yep the genny drives the mains charger which has an ammeter that shows the current out of the charger not the current going into the battery. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 12:26:31 GMT
That's not what you said originally though. Sure it is. I said it wasn't adjustable. It isn't. There are three selectable presets, none of which are adjustable.  |
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 12:36:14 GMT
That's not what you said originally though. Sure it is. I said it wasn't adjustable. It isn't. There are three selectable presets, none of which are adjustable. I think I see a squirmy can I get out of this post |
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 12:47:23 GMT
Sure it is. I said it wasn't adjustable. It isn't. There are three selectable presets, none of which are adjustable. I think I see a squirmy can I get out of this post See what you like (you generally do). Trojans require a 14.8V absorption voltage. Nowhere in the manual does it say that you can adjust any of the settings to achieve that. It's not adjustable. |
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Post by peterboat on Oct 30, 2016 12:49:17 GMT
On my old boat I had solar no shore power and I used a lot of leccy, to get around the problem of equalisation I fitted an alternator controller which as we know ups the charge from the alternator [it does cycle so wont cook them]. They arnt hugely expensive and my first batch of full tractions lasted 6 years on that boat and were transferred to my new boat where they are now 12 years old.
My first boat had no method of showing how much power were in the batteries other than a volt meter, and the meter on the solar charge controller, very much a finger in the wind stuff. So Ricco thats my advice others may say its wrong but it did work so the choice is yours. I would also go for the 2 x trojans not one just insures you against a week of no sun
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 12:49:26 GMT
What do you think this means then? Yep the genny drives the mains charger which has an ammeter that shows the current out of the charger not the current going into the battery. He's already said that he accounts for other loads, I quoted it only a couple of posts back. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 12:50:08 GMT
Think I will go play with me xbox, it's less frustrating.
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 12:51:07 GMT
I kinda agree, but 'standard' leisure batteries are so shit that they tend to die in 12 months whatever you do. It appears from Ricco's posts that he's been fully charging them so maybe he'll have better luck with a quality battery. So why the change of mind from pushing Trojan T105s hard. You mean you finally listened to the OP after others investigated. Trying to take the credit lol It has never appeared that Ricco was fully charging his batteries Please show me any post where I was "pushing T105's hard". As to agreeing with other posters I often do - it's only you who mostly spouts bollocks. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 12:54:35 GMT
So why the change of mind from pushing Trojan T105s hard. You mean you finally listened to the OP after others investigated. Trying to take the credit lol It has never appeared that Ricco was fully charging his batteries Please show me any post where I was "pushing T105's hard". As to agreeing with other posters I often do - it's only you who mostly spouts bollocks. Look, you made a sweeping generalisation, you were wrong. It's no big deal, so it's quite pointless making an argument out of it. |
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 12:54:40 GMT
I think I see a squirmy can I get out of this post See what you like (you generally do). Trojans require a 14.8V absorption voltage. Nowhere in the manual does it say that you can adjust any of the settings to achieve that. It's not adjustable. You need to work out what the words adjustable mean. But then before you heavily recommend Trojans you should have checked what the charging capability was, but you did not, you just heavily recommended Trojans regardless of everything else. I have seen you do it before Trojan Trojan Trojan, last battery I would recommend unless it was for a boat where I knew charging and the charge regime was 100% OK. It was obvious from the first post to me and should have been to you if you are as good as you make out. But them your not as you have shown in this thread. I must have a look at your battery thread, been too busy up to now. |
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 12:56:55 GMT
Please show me any post where I was "pushing T105's hard". As to agreeing with other posters I often do - it's only you who mostly spouts bollocks. Look, you made a sweeping generalisation, you were wrong. It's no big deal, so it's quite pointless making an argument out of it. I wasn't wrong! For fuck's sake, it's NOT ADJUSTABLE! |
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 12:57:58 GMT
In answer to your OP, yes. I've found "leisure" batteries to be rubbish, despite being well charged, half their life on shore power etc. They just seem to die quite quickly. Trojans are in a different league. They are well made, solid and seem to take a fair bit of abuse. They can, at a pinch, be taken down to 20%SoC without too much damage. The only thing to say is that they do have to be charged at a fairly high voltage (say 14.8v) and will sulphate if routinely undercharged. But provided you charge them properly, they last much, much better than "leisure", for not much more. If I were you I'd get 2 x T105s which will give you 225AH at 12v. Maybe more than you need but much better value than buying a single 12v one. Oh and just bear in mind that their capacity is quite poor for the first few cycles. They reach full capacity after about 50 cycles, which is just about when "leisure" batteries are knackered! ^^^^ This Think that was your first post on the thread, will that do you or is there more squirm to come. Oh sorry you can't complain to Daniel and try and get me banned. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 12:59:55 GMT
Look, you made a sweeping generalisation, you were wrong. It's no big deal, so it's quite pointless making an argument out of it. I wasn't wrong! For fuck's sake, it's NOT ADJUSTABLE! Whatever 😋 |
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