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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 14:09:24 GMT
It has three battery settings, which are adjustable. (Mine does anyway). The setting needs to be (3). So where are the adjustments for these three presets?
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 14:11:12 GMT
Fight, fight, fight, for a minute back there is though I was back know at school! I think Graham & Tony are arguing overy semantics. Does having three preset modes, each with a different set voltage to suit different types of battery count as adjustable? In any case Ricco's charger isn't best suited to Trojan batteries. No it isn't semantics. He and Nick recommended Trojans and the OP bought it. I don't know even now whether the OP is going to go out and buy Trojans. I hope he does not as I have every reason to believe that Nick & Tony will have wasted his money for him. He and Nick said "if you can charge them correctly". It would appear that he can't, due to the lack of adjustment on the solar controller.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 14:12:34 GMT
It has three battery settings, which are adjustable. (Mine does anyway). The setting needs to be (3). So where are the adjustments for these three presets? Go read the instructions, then stop "nitpicking" to justify the silly bollox you came up with. Don't come back until such time as you have done this!
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 14:13:35 GMT
To my mind, 'adjustable' means that you can adjust it to suit your circumstances. It's gone on long enough now - I shall bow out. Adjustable purely means being able to be changed. The amount of change is not defined in the word, that is added by words like in 0.1 steps, fully, smoothly etc.
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 14:14:27 GMT
So where are the adjustments for these three presets? Go read the instructions, then stop "nitpicking" to justify the silly bollox you came up with. Don't come back until such time as you have done this! I read it. It stated that it had three presets. Nowhere did it state that these were adjustable as I have been repeating ad nauseum ever since.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 14:15:45 GMT
Go read the instructions, then stop "nitpicking" to justify the silly bollox you came up with. Don't come back until such time as you have done this! I read it. It stated that it had three presets. Nowhere did it state that these were adjustable as I have been repeating ad nauseum ever since. Being thick for the sake of it does not suit you 😊
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 14:17:24 GMT
I read it. It stated that it had three presets. Nowhere did it state that these were adjustable as I have been repeating ad nauseum ever since. Being thick for the sake of it does not suit you 😊 But I'm not! I pasted the bloody manual which only referred to the three basic presets. I looked for where to adjust those to suit Trojans and it wasn't mentioned anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 14:18:29 GMT
Being thick for the sake of it does not suit you 😊 But I'm not! I pasted the bloody manual which only referred to the three basic presets. I looked for where to adjust those to suit Trojans and it wasn't mentioned anywhere. Bye bye......
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 14:18:40 GMT
No it isn't semantics. He and Nick recommended Trojans and the OP bought it. I don't know even now whether the OP is going to go out and buy Trojans. I hope he does not as I have every reason to believe that Nick & Tony will have wasted his money for him. He and Nick said "if you can charge them correctly". It would appear that he can't, due to the lack of adjustment on the solar controller. lol The OP did not know all though he gave the thread all the information to tell the readers that there was a continuing charging problem. Just you did not read and assimulate, that is your responsibility and would could be your liability if the OP does buy Trojans, you present yourself as a competent person.
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Post by smileypete on Oct 30, 2016 14:58:28 GMT
I guess Ricco could buy that £130 Trojan that someone mentioned, turn the solar voltage up to max and see how it fares, eg by checking it with a hydrometer.
If it starts to lose capacity, then find some way of EQ charging with a higher voltage, like a smallish unregulated solar panel or some sort of DC converter.
OTOH if he could get 18 months to 2 years out of a £60 non sealed leisure batt would that be acceptable?
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 15:10:16 GMT
I guess Ricco could buy that £130 Trojan that someone mentioned, turn the solar voltage up to max and see how it fares, eg by checking it with a hydrometer. If it starts to lose capacity, then find some way of EQ charging with a higher voltage, like a smallish unregulated solar panel or some sort of DC converter. OTOH if he could get 18 months to 2 years out of a £60 non sealed leisure batt would that be acceptable? I think it would have to be 2 years both for cost/benefit plus he's fed up with changing them.
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 15:16:07 GMT
I guess Ricco could buy that £130 Trojan that someone mentioned, turn the solar voltage up to max and see how it fares, eg by checking it with a hydrometer. If it starts to lose capacity, then find some way of EQ charging with a higher voltage, like a smallish unregulated solar panel or some sort of DC converter. OTOH if he could get 18 months to 2 years out of a £60 non sealed leisure batt would that be acceptable? I would think that 18 months to 2 years out of a £60/£70 wet leisure battery would be a good win. I think he just needs to sort the charging and monitoring out and I feel he could be there. Pity he is so far away from here.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 30, 2016 17:33:05 GMT
I'm still undecided about this. I understand that ideally my solar controller should charge at 14.8, but this is not possible with the one I have. Reading up on Trojans though, the recommended float charging voltage is lower than 14.4. So, if there's enough sun (there's more than enough panels!) I should be able to charge them, even if it takes a bit longer than it should. Does this brand of logic hold good?
I'm interested by the suggestion to buy cheap non sealed batteries rather than Trojans. Could do with knowing though; what would the advantage in me having crappy non sealed rather than crappy sealed?
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 30, 2016 17:46:39 GMT
I'm still undecided about this. I understand that ideally my solar controller should charge at 14.8, but this is not possible with the one I have. Reading up on Trojans though, the recommended float charging voltage is lower than 14.4. So, if there's enough sun (there's more than enough panels!) I should be able to charge them, even if it takes a bit longer than it should. Does this brand of logic hold good? Yes, that sounds good as long as you can equalise them occasionally. If you can't then no, it doesn't sound good.
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Post by Graham on Oct 30, 2016 17:59:13 GMT
I'm still undecided about this. I understand that ideally my solar controller should charge at 14.8, but this is not possible with the one I have. Reading up on Trojans though, the recommended float charging voltage is lower than 14.4. So, if there's enough sun (there's more than enough panels!) I should be able to charge them, even if it takes a bit longer than it should. Does this brand of logic hold good? I'm interested by the suggestion to buy cheap non sealed batteries rather than Trojans. Could do with knowing though; what would the advantage in me having crappy non sealed rather than crappy sealed? Honestly I would not go that route. For Trojans they need 14.8V to charge and a good 15.5V to equalise. OK crappy sealed batteries have a tendency to evaporate their water and you cannot replace it. crappy non sealed you can add water so you don't have a battery failure because of a loss of water. Same apply to the Trojans
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