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Post by lampiniafloat on Oct 30, 2016 17:42:43 GMT
Hi, Numpty here! We have 2 x 12v 110A gel leisure batteries, and a Victron 2 x 140w Polycrystalline solar system with a 15A - MPPT controller. The monitor is a NASA BM-1, which is excellent and which i have learned to stare at lovingly over the past 7 months - especially when it tells me my batteries are at %104 after a sunny day! We are on a landline at the moment and are at the stage where the solar is't cutting it for charging the 12v, even though it's only used for LED lights and the water pumps. I have a "Ring Automotive Workshop Charge20" battery charger here, says it's suitable for lead acid & gel. 3 charging modes - 1) 80A rms 55A dc 12v Engine Start. 2) 20A rms 12.8A dc 12v Fast Charging. 3) 3A rms 2A dc 12v Slow Charging. Questions: Is it true that my leisure batts can get "lazy" if not discharged and charged regularly? (i was running everything through the inverter when the solar was doing well i.e. recharging to %104 at least every other day.. We are not huge power users by any means..) How do i use this charger properly? Should i isolate the 12v before connecting (the manual says +itive then -ative) the croc clips? Or is it enough to turn the inverter off? Assuming the monitor is telling me the batts are, say, 80% charged, which charging mode should i use? Does this charger automatically go into "float" mode? All help most gratefully recieved - have been told that the batteries are in very good nick for their age and would like to keep them that way! :-) Read more: thunderboat.boards.net/thread/817/battery-charging-primer?page=5#ixzz4OajLmOeY
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Post by JohnV on Oct 30, 2016 20:27:42 GMT
Right, well as no one else has answered I will start off. First off your Ring battery charger is not really a suitable battery charger to keep your batteries in good order for a liveaboard. The charger is not what is described as a multistage charger. it is basically a very low tech charger for occasional automotive use. What I suspect you need is a proper multistage charger (quite a low power one * would probably be enough as you are a low consumption boat) and depend on the solar to give you the occasional proper topping up. * a slow charging regime is kind to batteries although it can lead to sulphation but I would think your solar panels would prevent that. I'm quite sure someone will be along shortly to tell me I'm totally wrong ......... but I've got broad shoulders
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Post by smileypete on Oct 30, 2016 23:38:23 GMT
As said the ring charger isn't ideal, but should be OK for limited short term use IF you can properly monitor charging. Monitoring would involve keep a constant eye on the voltage and current, making sure the charger is in slow mode and the voltage doesn't exceed 14.4V to 14.8V Unplug charger before connecting or disconnecting, also see The Battery FAQ (google) for some safe handling tips. (Mostly proper eye protection, no metal jewellery among other things.) These have got some good feedback on CWDF, for long term use it'd be need to be permanently connected eg with ring terminals and a 15A fuse in the red lead close to the batts: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Numax-12V-10A-Intelligent-Leisure-Battery-Charger-Caravan-Motorhome-Marine-/131584430992Hope this helps
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 31, 2016 0:03:05 GMT
All good advice above. Regarding the BM-1, I'm afraid it will tell you lies about the battery's state of charge. It's not a fault, simply a failing of Ah counters to know exactly where the battery is at. Note that 104% is impossible.
Read the 1st post in the Charging Primer post where you first posted this question and look at the 4th paragraph in the "Off Grid Boater" section. That tells you two foolproof ways of determining when your batts are close to 100%.
Cheers, Tony
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Post by lampiniafloat on Oct 31, 2016 10:18:36 GMT
Really helpful stuff here - big thanks to all.. Will read up more in my breaks today!
Laters! (With more numpty questions no doubt!)
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Post by tonyqj on Oct 31, 2016 10:44:37 GMT
Really helpful stuff here - big thanks to all.. Will read up more in my breaks today! Laters! (With more numpty questions no doubt!) Tony B has just written a post about why Ah counters like the BM-1 tell lies - it might make an interesting read for you.
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