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Post by Jim on Jan 9, 2023 18:30:50 GMT
We're 'ard up north. Certainly not bothered by a bit of a drip or two from down south or from C&H lock gates. Mattress round the prop? Lift the outboard. No need to spend hours stuck in the badlands clutching a Bowie Knife in a trembling hand. Reversing? I'll race you! Complete failure of motor, just drop a new one on. As for waitress service, bacon butties, coffee and fresh scones while at the tiller, what's not to like, there are many other benefits you Bishop Beaters miss out on too. Congratulations on a very well argued, succinct and logical defence of outboard motors. Now try doing the same for that shitty Halfords roof box of yours.  It's a fairly secure box with a lid to keep wood dry, spare rope and cassette. It was cheap. It does the job. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 9, 2023 18:35:08 GMT
Congratulations on a very well argued, succinct and logical defence of outboard motors. Now try doing the same for that shitty Halfords roof box of yours. It's a fairly secure box with a lid to keep wood dry, spare rope and cassette. It was cheap. It does the job. I suppose it's a fairly big ask to expect a primitive and unsophisticated Northerner to take into account aesthetic considerations.  |
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Post by Jim on Jan 9, 2023 18:48:58 GMT
It's a fairly secure box with a lid to keep wood dry, spare rope and cassette. It was cheap. It does the job. I suppose it's a fairly big ask to expect a primitive and unsophisticated Northerner to take into account aesthetic considerations. No not at all, we aren't fooled by summat tarted up with a bit of glitter and a twice the price label. |
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Post by Jim on Jan 10, 2023 11:37:08 GMT
It's a fairly secure box with a lid to keep wood dry, spare rope and cassette. It was cheap. It does the job. I suppose it's a fairly big ask to expect a primitive and unsophisticated Northerner to take into account aesthetic considerations. You have obviously been using too much optrex, according to Spike Milligan😉. |
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Jan 10, 2023 13:25:16 GMT
Your disagreement with the second point seems to be founded on a presumption that controlling, or steering, a boat with a line from the towpath necessarily means putting in a big physical effort to achieve the desired result. Fact is, that if done correctly, it doesn't, . . particularly now that there are so many towpath bollards conveniently situated above and below single and double canal locks along so-called 'lock landings'. The art of controlling, or steering, a boat in such a way is something that died out a long time ago, . . along with the operation of commercial carrying with narrowboats working in pairs, . . and all the other labour and time saving methods and techniques that were once an essential part of everyday canal boating. Often it doesn't require a big effort, there are locks where it takes a fair amount of thinking about how you would do it though and still a fair degree of physical effort plus skill/luck if the wind is against you. Mind you, not sure I'd be happy steering a boat with the bow thruster in high winds or past a weir/strong bywash. In reply to that, I repeat what I said in the post you were replying to, . . your point is founded on the incorrect presumption that controlling or steering, a boat with a line from the towpath necessarily means putting in a big physical effort to achieve the desired result. Fact is, that if done correctly, it doesn't, . . particularly now that there are so many towpath bollards conveniently situated above and below single and double canal locks along so-called 'lock landings'.The real problem is that very few, if any, of today's pleasure boaters have a clue about how to use lines, ropes and bollards to control and/or steer boats running into lock chambers, . . or are equipped with suitable types or lengths of line, rope, boathooks, . . or even the likes of things such as tiller strings. Watch any of the many videos/clips available on such as YouTube showing lock operations or canalboat handling through or around locks, and the general lack of 'know how' is painfully plain to see, . . even the very basics, . . like which way up to put a running turn on a bollard so that it neither jams nor comes off. |
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Post by fi on Jan 10, 2023 13:52:55 GMT
Often it doesn't require a big effort, there are locks where it takes a fair amount of thinking about how you would do it though and still a fair degree of physical effort plus skill/luck if the wind is against you. Mind you, not sure I'd be happy steering a boat with the bow thruster in high winds or past a weir/strong bywash. In reply to that, I repeat what I said in the post you were replying to, . . your point is founded on the incorrect presumption that controlling or steering, a boat with a line from the towpath necessarily means putting in a big physical effort to achieve the desired result. Fact is, that if done correctly, it doesn't, . . particularly now that there are so many towpath bollards conveniently situated above and below single and double canal locks along so-called 'lock landings'.The real problem is that very few, if any, of today's pleasure boaters have a clue about how to use lines, ropes and bollards to control and/or steer boats running into lock chambers, . . or are equipped with suitable types or lengths of line, rope, boathooks, . . or even the likes of things such as tiller strings. Watch any of the many videos/clips available on such as YouTube showing lock operations or canalboat handling through or around locks, and the general lack of 'know how' is painfully plain to see, . . even the very basics, . . like which way up to put a running turn on a bollard so that it neither jams nor comes off. Come out of retirement then and start teaching people the skills you mention they need. |
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Post by Jim on Jan 10, 2023 14:05:12 GMT
Often it doesn't require a big effort, there are locks where it takes a fair amount of thinking about how you would do it though and still a fair degree of physical effort plus skill/luck if the wind is against you. Mind you, not sure I'd be happy steering a boat with the bow thruster in high winds or past a weir/strong bywash. In reply to that, I repeat what I said in the post you were replying to, . . your point is founded on the incorrect presumption that controlling or steering, a boat with a line from the towpath necessarily means putting in a big physical effort to achieve the desired result. Fact is, that if done correctly, it doesn't, . . particularly now that there are so many towpath bollards conveniently situated above and below single and double canal locks along so-called 'lock landings'.The real problem is that very few, if any, of today's pleasure boaters have a clue about how to use lines, ropes and bollards to control and/or steer boats running into lock chambers, . . or are equipped with suitable types or lengths of line, rope, boathooks, . . or even the likes of things such as tiller strings. Watch any of the many videos/clips available on such as YouTube showing lock operations or canalboat handling through or around locks, and the general lack of 'know how' is painfully plain to see, . . even the very basics, . . like which way up to put a running turn on a bollard so that it neither jams nor comes off. Running turns don't work on square bollards afaik. Anyway, how are us young flibbertigibbets to know if you old gimmers won't share your Precious Knowledge. |
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Post by kris on Jan 10, 2023 14:13:06 GMT
Don’t feed the troll, just leave him alone under his bridge.
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Post by on Jan 10, 2023 14:14:46 GMT
I don't watch any of these videos as they are too tedious.
However.
One thing which the inconsequential gutless invertebrate nobodies who do this sort of thing are able to demonstrate is that they have managed to retain ownership and use of their boats.
While they may indeed be inconsequential, and I would not seek to argue against this suggestion, the actual using of the boat does indicate some sort of innate intelligence as boating is generally quite an enjoyable activity.
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Post by Jim on Jan 10, 2023 14:24:03 GMT
Don’t feed the troll, just leave him alone under his bridge. Awww. Can't we poke it with a long shaft and run away giggling like girls? |
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Post by kris on Jan 10, 2023 14:44:53 GMT
Don’t feed the troll, just leave him alone under his bridge. Awww. Can't we poke it with a long shaft and run away giggling like girls? If you like, but it only encourages him. |
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Post by Aloysius on Jan 10, 2023 19:24:09 GMT
The Higher Knowledge will be released In Due Course, but prior to this everyone will have to agree that Tony is the Greatest Boater Ever To Have Lived and is in possession of The Truth, and that we are all but miserable swine to whom pearls may be fed if deemed Appropriate (which is very unlikely).
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 10, 2023 19:56:15 GMT
The Higher Knowledge will be released In Due Course, but prior to this everyone will have to agree that T ony is the Greatest Boater Ever To Have Lived and is in possession of The Truth, and that we are all but miserable swine to whom pearls may be fed if deemed Appropriate (which is very unlikely). Nothing he says is incorrect, untrue, or unjustified - alternative views NOT tolerated. |
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Post by on Jan 10, 2023 20:24:13 GMT
Certainly a good candidate for the Boater Of The Millennium award.
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Post by kris on Jan 10, 2023 20:26:16 GMT
Certainly a good candidate for the Boater Of The Millennium award. pity he’s not got a boat anymore. |
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