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Post by kris on Feb 24, 2023 11:27:56 GMT
I don’t know if anyone has already filled in crts latest bogus consultation, I was just looking at it and I just had a thought crt have supplied my email address and I presume all other licence holders to this private company djs. Well how does that sit with gdpr ?
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Post by Aloysius on Feb 24, 2023 11:45:13 GMT
I expect you 'agreed' to it when you renewed your boat licence.
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Post by kris on Feb 24, 2023 11:57:57 GMT
I expect you 'agreed' to it when you renewed your boat licence. Yes but as I understand, no organisation can get you to sign away your legal rights. So no contract law can usurp primary legislation, especially as if you don’t agree to it you don’t get your licence. That could be considered duress. |
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Post by Aloysius on Feb 24, 2023 12:03:10 GMT
To the barricades, comrade.
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Post by kris on Feb 24, 2023 12:05:17 GMT
To the barricades, comrade. A little bit of an overreaction. But I do think crt should have to abide by the law. |
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Post by on Feb 24, 2023 12:15:10 GMT
I'm interested in the auto renew option of the licence. When one sets this up presumably one has unwittingly agreed to the t&c. Maybe there is a tick box somewhere.
Internet and tick boxes is a well dodgy situation. They keep throwing consent tick boxes all the time on websites. Maybe one day people will just hit consent and not even know what it is they are actually consenting to.
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Post by kris on Feb 24, 2023 12:24:42 GMT
People already do just hit consent buttons without knowing what they are consenting to.
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Post by kris on Feb 24, 2023 12:30:04 GMT
Anyway it looks as if crt are planning to penalise the two groups of boaters that it has already successfully vilified, People without home moorings and wide beams. Personally I would have no problem paying more money, if I thought it was getting spent on maintaining the network. Rather than paying for a management heavy structure. I don’t think there’s any other third sector organisation with such a top heavy structure. I will be suggesting a cull of management rather than licence increases.
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Post by Aloysius on Feb 24, 2023 12:46:00 GMT
I'm interested in the auto renew option of the licence. When one sets this up presumably one has unwittingly agreed to the t&c. Maybe there is a tick box somewhere. Internet and tick boxes is a well dodgy situation. They keep throwing consent tick boxes all the time on websites. Maybe one day people will just hit consent and not even know what it is they are actually consenting to. The consent options faced with every website is a result of peeps complaining at the highest levels for about a decade that there was no choice offered, so now there is an illusion of choice instead. |
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Post by on Feb 24, 2023 12:51:54 GMT
Interesting interpretation.
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Post by on Feb 24, 2023 12:52:46 GMT
People already do just hit consent buttons without knowing what they are consenting to. Where does this go? It seems dodgy to me. |
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Post by kris on Feb 24, 2023 12:59:10 GMT
People already do just hit consent buttons without knowing what they are consenting to. Where does this go? It seems dodgy to me. I’d be a bit more worried by the fact that we are ruled/governed by consent. But we are not asked if we consent to this or not. |
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Post by Aloysius on Feb 24, 2023 13:49:57 GMT
Interesting interpretation. It is very much an illusion; during the argument, which raged for years in the European courts, it was decided that there is a level of personal data which can be gathered without consent, termed 'legitimate interest', so even if you click 'no' to every request for consent, you will find that most websites go on to place cookies and trackers anyway, and all perfectly legally. Also there is no standard that all data gatherers have to adhere to, and while some websites have a 'refuse all' button, others (example: Daily Mail) make it as hard as possible to refuse by making you deny every business that pays DM to host its trackers individually, and the list is huge. DM is far from the only organisation that does this. I am also of the opinion that the practice of data gathering will happen anyway under the aforementioned clause even by those websites which appear to offer a clear choice. |
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 25, 2023 0:13:17 GMT
Having just got the renewal invitation, there is no tickbox for consenting to the Ts&Cs. Since it is on auto-renew and they have my card details, it just says I have to do nothing and it will auto-renew. In the blurb it says “by making this application, you agree to the Ts&Cs” or some such. So by default I’ve agreed even though I haven’t made an application or ticked any box, they are just auto-renewing it. I would imagine that would never stand up in court.
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Post by kris on Feb 25, 2023 15:10:28 GMT
Let’s face it. Lots of what crt get up wouldn’t stand up to the correct legal scrutiny in a court.
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