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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 24, 2023 6:23:34 GMT
If the option didn't exist for CRT to remove non-compliant boats, it's difficult to see why anyone would go to the expense of obtaining a licence or complying with the conditions attached to it. It's not as if the payment fails and they rock up the following week to take the boat away, CRT typically spend several years negotiating with the boater in an attempt to resolve the situation.
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Post by thebfg on Mar 24, 2023 7:38:05 GMT
CrT did not cancel his licence because of his cruising distances, according to the media they terminated it in direct response to him allegedly verbally abusing amd threatening a CRT employee.
In court those charges were dropped.
They then S8 his boat due to not having a licence.
I understand he was given reasonable allowances on his licence due to a disability, he may or may not of met those allowances though.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 24, 2023 8:25:47 GMT
I believe the problems pre-date that incident.
"George Ward, 52, who stays between Devizes and the Dundas Aqueduct, has been involved in a legal dispute with the Canal and River Trust, which took over from British Waterways, since 2010 after he was unable to get a boat safety certificate in time to re-licence the vehicle he lives in".
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 24, 2023 9:09:20 GMT
CrT did not cancel his licence because of his cruising distances, according to the media they terminated it in direct response to him allegedly verbally abusing amd threatening a CRT employee. In court those charges were dropped. They then S8 his boat due to not having a licence. I understand he was given reasonable allowances on his licence due to a disability, he may or may not of met those allowances though. Oh dear, . . I hope you realise that won't go down at all well with the unthinking bigots who blindly support anything and everything the C&RT does, . . irrespective of whether or not its actions are correct, or sensible, or practical, or compliant with all UK common and statute law, or in line with generally accepted standards of common decency.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 24, 2023 9:40:17 GMT
I believe the problems pre-date that incident. "George Ward, 52, who stays between Devizes and the Dundas Aqueduct, has been involved in a legal dispute with the Canal and River Trust, which took over from British Waterways, since 2010 after he was unable to get a boat safety certificate in time to re-licence the vehicle he lives in". How remarkble, . . a truthful and factually correct statement from the most outstandingly moronic of the Thunderboat forum's psychopaths. Has someone taken the the time and trouble to read and explain this (below) post of mine from yesterday to him ? "To clear up any misunderstandings there might be over my describing the treatment of George Ward at the hands of C&RT and its corrupt lawyers as 'unfair', . . it is quite simply that this man IS being treated unfairly in that he is being subjected to yet another instance of C&RT misusing and abusing inappropriate statutory powers to resolve a shambolic mess which it, as the navigation authority, should never have created nor then allowed to develop in the first place.
The origins of the long running George Ward saga rest squarely with C&RT's obsession with its own customary abuse and misuse of the statutory powers it enjoys - quite literally 'enjoys', . . hugely - under Sections 8 and 13 of the British Waterways Acts of 1983 and 1971 respectively, . . when in truth the initial problems with George Ward's boat(s) could have been, and SHOULD have been, addressed initially via the procedurally correct, and lawful, application or use of the 1976 Licensing Byelaws, the statutory powers specifically for the 'Recovery of Charges' and 'Control of Unsafe Vessels' under Sections 5 and 7 respectively of the !983 Act, and the statutory powers applicable under Sections 17 and 18 of the 1995 Act."
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 24, 2023 9:45:44 GMT
Nobody reads your posts, twat.
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Post by on Mar 24, 2023 9:56:40 GMT
OK so one is allowed to threaten others and be abusive if one has a disability.
Right. Good to know.
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Post by on Mar 24, 2023 9:59:03 GMT
Nobody reads your posts, twat. Just scan it quickly and you can see years in it which means it is yet more worthless repetition.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 24, 2023 10:24:56 GMT
Anyway the deadline has expired so it's now a guessing game to see how long it takes CRT to action it further. I feel sorry for George but he's about to get fucked.
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Post by thebfg on Mar 24, 2023 11:19:26 GMT
I believe the problems pre-date that incident. "George Ward, 52, who stays between Devizes and the Dundas Aqueduct, has been involved in a legal dispute with the Canal and River Trust, which took over from British Waterways, since 2010 after he was unable to get a boat safety certificate in time to re-licence the vehicle he lives in". Yes it's been on going. He sidestepped a previous s8 by selling the boat. But that doesn't change why his then current licence was terminated. He's had licences after winning his argument that he should have a restricted movement pattern due to a disability.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 24, 2023 11:36:47 GMT
I believe the problems pre-date that incident. "George Ward, 52, who stays between Devizes and the Dundas Aqueduct, has been involved in a legal dispute with the Canal and River Trust, which took over from British Waterways, since 2010 after he was unable to get a boat safety certificate in time to re-licence the vehicle he lives in". Yes it's been on going. He sidestepped a previous s8 by selling the boat. But that doesn't change why his then current licence was terminated. He's had licences after winning his argument that he should have a restricted movement pattern due to a disability. Interesting comment...Narrowboatworld has it that George was refusing to pay a licence fee on either boat, just wondered where your information is coming from. narrowboatworld.com/14345-restraining-order-against-boater
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 24, 2023 12:57:52 GMT
Yes it's been on going. He sidestepped a previous s8 by selling the boat. But that doesn't change why his then current licence was terminated. He's had licences after winning his argument that he should have a restricted movement pattern due to a disability. Interesting comment...Narrowboatworld has it that George was refusing to pay a licence fee on either boat, just wondered where your information is coming from. narrowboatworld.com/14345-restraining-order-against-boater "He was objecting to having to pay licences, believing that the rules did not apply to him".
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Post by on Mar 24, 2023 13:21:51 GMT
It was quite interesting in the video at 16m15s where the CRT geyser pointed out that the CRT is in fact not a pubic body.
I wonder if they might turn the screws more and more as public funding is reduced.
It could get awkward out there on the towpath.
You have no right to live there.
Try not to moan about it.
Be careful.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 24, 2023 13:41:07 GMT
the CRT geyser pointed out that the CRT is in fact not a pubic (sic) body While there is no fixed or formal definition for what NGOs are, they are generally defined as nonprofit entities that are independent of governmental influence—although they may receive government funding
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 24, 2023 13:48:25 GMT
"He was objecting to having to pay licences, believing that the rules did not apply to him". Narrowboatworld often doesn't have the highest standards in journalism...this was effectively demonstrated when it published a series of articles concerning Dunk. It's just that the statement seems in direct conflict with BFG's post. I assume you highlighted it because you found it amusing.
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