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Post by The Cat Man on Apr 21, 2023 13:39:47 GMT
To be technically accurate the towpath in the location in question is a footpath. However the location where all the random shite has been deposited as if it were a pikey site may be outside of the space allocated to the path. It is quite interesting as in the photos it seems unusually wide in that particular spot. I don't know how wide footpaths are. Is it something like 1.5 metres? Maybe wider. One wonders what the elfin safety status would be if a small child became entangled in some of the rubbish and while trying to get out snapped their hand off and bled to death over a number of hours. It could get messy. Varies depending where it is and circumstances. If the towpath there is being used as access to a house/farm/farmland the footpath should be equal to that needed for access. Or if bounded by boundary features the footpath should be from boundary to boundary.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2023 13:51:24 GMT
I think David Schweizer might know about this. He posted this in reply to one of my posts on canal world where I suggested perhaps as the canal had been previously closed the ownership of the land may be a grey area. "The Canal towpath where George Ward is moored remained in the ownership of BW for the period when the waterway was not operational, it was also a registered Public Footpath. When all Public Footpaths were closed during the Foot and Mouth epidemic Parish Councils were required to formally close them and post notices to that effect. I was Parish Clerk at the time and was responsible for organizing the closures. When I contacted BW to arrange this for the towpath, they advised me that they would be arranging the closure themselves under powers already issued by the Government to all public bodies with public footpaths on their land." --- I think it is a public footpath. Ah, David Schweizer, the billy liar of cwdf. I remember his story about boats moored continuously between his marina and braunston stop, making it impossible for him to moor. It was then proven untrue after pictures were posted of mile after mile of empty mooring. Still, if it suits your agenda, I suppose it's ok.
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 13:58:01 GMT
I don't have an agenda. I think he probably does know the area as he lives there. No wonder its called Smelly Bridge there is a great big shit farm there !
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 13:58:18 GMT
What’s the difference in reality?
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Post by The Cat Man on Apr 21, 2023 14:04:39 GMT
What’s the difference in reality? Very little in normal circumstances. It does give CRT a problem though if they want to close the path - can't remember all the rules about closures but it isn't simple except for emergency safety reasons, even then there are laws to follow (although common sense dictates things somewhat).
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 14:13:38 GMT
I suppose the fly tipping question must be relevant.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 14:34:25 GMT
I suppose the fly tipping question must be relevant. what fly tipping question?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2023 14:36:26 GMT
I suppose the fly tipping question must be relevant. what fly tipping question? None. He's just rambling because the original topic is beyond his depth of experience.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 14:51:49 GMT
Arthur Marshall, from Macclesfield, says: "With all the publicity this has generated, CRT are going to have to find a way to get rid of unmoving and unlicenced boats with people living on them, or it's going to snowball. "As I understand it, it's been their choice to go for a court order in those circs, but presumably they could just tow the thing away with the owner on board if they wished. "The only purpose of the order as far as I can see is that the bloke is in contempt of court if he doesn't leave, and so liable to arrest, but that didn't work yesterday." It’s dangerous that they are publishing the ramblings of people with no direct experience as fact.
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 14:56:36 GMT
I suppose the fly tipping question must be relevant. what fly tipping question? Piles of random objects left on land is fly tipping. It is in the photos. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_dumpingTell me that all these things are going to be picked up and taken away by the person who put them there. I think not.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 14:59:28 GMT
what fly tipping question? Piles of random objects left on land is fly tipping. It is in the photos. Not if your not planing on leaving them there. It’s not like he’s dumped rubbish and ran away.
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 15:01:46 GMT
Fair point. It still looks like illegal dumping to me. He isn't going to take that away. The job of removal of all the random things will be down to the CRT at the end of the day.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 15:04:14 GMT
Fair point. It still looks like illegal dumping to me. He isn't going to take that away. The job of removal of all the random things will be down to the CRT at the end of the day. I think crt have already taken lots away and the photos are old.
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 15:05:11 GMT
I meant the one with the coppers walking around. I think this is a new picture.
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 15:05:41 GMT
Fair point. It still looks like illegal dumping to me. He isn't going to take that away. The job of removal of all the random things will be down to the CRT at the end of the day. I think crt have already taken lots away and the photos are old. So it wasn't fly tipping then. OK. I guess the word "fly" means you do it and leave but the legal status is the same. Waste was dumped on land. Not allowed.
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