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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 15:34:56 GMT
It’s not fly tipping. Would someone who filled up there garden with “junk,” get done for fly tipping? No the council would make them clean it up under some other environmental health law. But they wouldn’t be at risk of being prosecuted for fly tipping. You seem to be having trouble with the 'thine and mine' concept. No it’s pretty simple to understand even for you. Would you like me to draw a picture?
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 15:35:24 GMT
Keep your own shit in your own space. Simple for some, difficult for others. It’s not fly tipping. Would someone who filled up there garden with “junk,” get done for fly tipping? No the council would make them clean it up under some other environmental health law. But they wouldn’t be at risk of being prosecuted for fly tipping. Why are you comparing a towpath with someone's garden?
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Post by Murgatroyd on Apr 21, 2023 15:37:45 GMT
You seem to be having trouble with the 'thine and mine' concept. No it’s pretty simple to understand even for you. Would you like me to draw a picture? Yes.
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 15:37:48 GMT
Take this comparison out of the front door and leave the waste on the pavement outside. Is this still not fly tipping?
It is much more similar than the garden because the house owner owns the garden.
Mr Ward may think he owns the verge between towpath and boat but he would be rapidly disabused of this notion if the question ever arose.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 15:39:48 GMT
No it’s pretty simple to understand even for you. Would you like me to draw a picture? Yes. It’s hard luck your having then.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 21, 2023 15:39:53 GMT
Enough mindless irrelevant tripe from the resident idiots, . . time for more of this :-
The following account, relating to the public exposure of C&RT Ltd's long term fraudulent misuse and abuse of its statutory powers under Section 8 of the British Waterways Act 1983 will also be posted elsewhere, . . but I think it appropriate to repeat it here - for as many times as necessary - if only as something of an antidote to the sheer volume of mindless garbage deposited on this thread by the members of the Thunderboat mental cripples club, . . and, more importantly, to give C&RT Ltd CEO Richard Parry, and Company Secretary, Book Cooker in Chief, and Head of Illegal and Connivance Services, Tom Deards, something to ponder, when it's reported back to them by their squads of internet stooges. _____________________________________________________
This latest C&RT Ltd festival of stupidity, mendacity, and plain old fashioned incompetence, staged on 19 April 2023 at Bradford-on-Avon, was attended in person by C&RT Ltd's Solicitor-Advocate, Lucy Barry, and her equally dishonest colleague, Matthew Aymes, the Trust's national Customer and Licence Support manager (sic). I was pleased to have the opportunity of having my good wishes passed on to them both via people that I was in direct contact with, and who were on site throughout the day.
A big 'thank you and well done' is due to a Wiltshire Police Sgt, who, fortunately for George Ward, and a great many others, knew and understood the powers and limitations of the (Declaratory & Injunctive Relief) Court Order with which C&RT Ltd were, after first unlawfully evicting him from, were fraudulently and in contempt of Court intending unlawfully to 'seize' and transport away the boat on which George Ward is living.
It must go on record that the Police Sgt's conduct and handling of the situation was correct to the letter of the law and wholly in order, . . in sharp contrast with the four thick ill-trained Nottinghamshire Police officers who attended and actively assisted C&RT Ltd and Commercial Boat Services bogus Bailiffs in the fraudulent seizure and ultimate theft of my boat Halcyon Daze on 22 October 2020.
It must also be noted at this stage that, since being exposed for the frauds they were, and proof of their true status being put into Police and other evidence, the C&RT Ltd/Commercial Boat Services (bogus) Bailiffs have now been redesignated - by professional liar and C&RT Ltd Solicitor-Advocate Lucy Barry - as "contracted security operatives", . . the guise in which they arrived in Bradford-on-Avon on 19 April, assuming that the Police would be evicting George Ward from his boat/home and then detaining or restraining him whilst their Commercial Boat Services colleagues towed it away.
I doubt, but sincerely hope, that the C&RT Ltd, having made a failed and wholly unlawful attempt on 19 April 2023 to enforce the fining, imprisonment or asset seizure sanctions specified in paras 2) & 3) of the Injunction section of the Court Order, . . in law and in Court procedures, the sole preserve of the Courts to apply and enforce, . . will now be so foolish as to go back to the Court to ask it to enforce the very same non-compliance sanctions that it has so recently, unsuccessfully, and unlawfully, attempted to enforce itself.
The C&RT's 19 April 2023 calculated and knowing misuse and of the (Court) Order for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief that this so-called charitable Trust obtained against George Ward has left its dishonest management and lawyers in something of a quandary. Asking the Court to enforce the fining, imprisonment or asset seizure sanctions listed in the printed warning that accompanies every Injunction Order the Courts make, . . only after first making an illegal abortive attempt to enforce it themselves, and with the unwitting assistance of the Police, . . will of course leave Deards, Barry, Aymes & co. in the position of having to explain away every previous occasion on which they have taken it upon themselves to contemptuously assume the role and powers of the Court in unlawfully seizing and disposing of targeted boatowners homes and/or assets without the Court's approval or authority so to do.
The lid has finally been very publicly blown off C&RT Ltd and Commercial Boat Services criminal activities, . . and the way is now open for everyone who has had a boat and contents unlawfully seized by this so-called charitable Trust and its crooked contractors to initiate the process of recovering their stolen goods and property.
On 19 April 2023, at Bradford-on-Avon, C&RT Ltd's team of retained boat thieves were stopped in their tracks because for the first time, ever, they were unlucky enough to encounter an intelligent and well trained Police officer who recognised the fact that the Court Order, . . [under which C&RT Ltd and its re-invented "contracted security operatives" (former bogus Bailiffs) were intending, with the by now customary and taken for granted Police assistance, to unlawfully evict a boatowner from their home/boat and fraudulently and in contempt of Court seize and transport away a Section 8'd boat] . . . in reality did NOT confer on the C&RT Ltd any such power or authority, . . or order the execution of any such action.
All this is obviously very difficult and confusing for some of the mental cripples both on here, on CWDF, at C&RT Ltd, and at Commercial Boat Services, who would rather not, or cannot, grasp or understand any of these simple truths and facts, . . but when all's said and done, that's their problem.
On Wednesday 19 April 2023, the luck of a great many past victims of C&RT Ltd's years of dishonesty, contempt for the law, and for common decency, took a turn for the better, . . C&RT Ltd's luck, on the other hand, ran out, . . and it was all thanks to a decent, right-thinking, and well trained Police Officer who saw through the fraudulently misrepresented Court Order, and through all the customary and well rehearsed misdirections and lies being peddled by C&RT Ltd's Matthew Aymes and Lucy Barry.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 15:43:23 GMT
Take this comparison out of the front door and leave the waste on the pavement outside. Is this still not fly tipping? It is much more similar than the garden because the house owner owns the garden. Mr Ward may think he owns the verge between towpath and boat but he would be rapidly disabused of this notion if the question ever arose. depends what you call waste? If you left a bag of household waste on the pavement outside your house with no intention of picking it up then that is fly tipping. If you left let’s say a bicycle on the pavement outside your house with the intention of picking it up again, then this isn’t fly tipping. Don’t think even George thinks he owns the towpath.
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Post by thebfg on Apr 21, 2023 15:43:58 GMT
So they did manage to crane it away and the boat has been sent to, I presume cbs yard.
I saw a post on Facebook saying the boat was put in a metal cradle before being towed away.
Probably the only way to crane it amd get it through Bradfordupon Avon lock.
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 15:45:20 GMT
The canada goose only has one egg left. Wildlife have removed the others. We will be saved from eternal and infernal and internal and external crushingly terrible apocalyptic type of scenes later.
This can only be a Good Thing.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 15:46:55 GMT
The canada goose only has one egg left. Wildlife have removed the others. We will be saved from eternal and infernal and internal and external crushingly terrible apocalyptic type of scenes later. This can only be a Good Thing. ?
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 15:46:59 GMT
Take this comparison out of the front door and leave the waste on the pavement outside. Is this still not fly tipping? It is much more similar than the garden because the house owner owns the garden. Mr Ward may think he owns the verge between towpath and boat but he would be rapidly disabused of this notion if the question ever arose. depends what you call waste? If you left a bag of household waste on the pavement outside your house with no intention of picking it up then that is fly tipping. If you left let’s say a bicycle on the pavement outside your house with the intention of picking it up again, then this isn’t fly tipping. Don’t think even George thinks he owns the towpath. Yes it would clearly depend on the specification of the waste. I have seen quite good stuff in pikey fly tipping before now. Its not all bags of domestic waste. I found some light fittings.
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 15:47:14 GMT
The canada goose only has one egg left. Wildlife have removed the others. We will be saved from eternal and infernal and internal and external crushingly terrible apocalyptic type of scenes later. This can only be a Good Thing. ? Response to Tony.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 15:48:07 GMT
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 15:48:35 GMT
So they did manage to crane it away and the boat has been sent to, I presume cbs yard. I saw a post on Facebook saying the boat was put in a metal cradle before being towed away. Probably the only way to crane it amd get it through Bradfordupon Avon lock. It is a long old drive to Greenwalls Farm from BoA. Maybe they have somewhere closer.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 21, 2023 16:13:02 GMT
So they did manage to crane it away and the boat has been sent to, I presume cbs yard. I saw a post on Facebook saying the boat was put in a metal cradle before being towed away. Probably the only way to crane it amd get it through Bradfordupon Avon lock. Only one of the boats, . . and not the cut down motorised Railway Boat that George lives on. The boat that was towed away was the knackered wooden sinker that was wrapped up in plastic sheets to keep it afloat, . . the one that should have been dealt with long ago under Section 7 of the British Waterways Act 1983. In the period immediately after the 1983 Act went onto the statute book, boats such as that, . . no-hopers in sinking condition, . . were generally broken up in situ by British Waterways, at minimal cost and with minimal delay, and then taken away in bits in a mud hopper for final disposal. If there was a known contactable owner they would invariably be given the opportunity to deal with the vessel themselves, . . under BWB or more usually an approved contractor's supervision, . . during the specified Section 7 process notice period.
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