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Post by bodger on Nov 3, 2016 13:31:53 GMT
if the Welsh can display leeks, the Scots thistles, the Irish shamrocks and the English roses, why the hell shouldn't all the Brits display poppies?
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Post by Phil on Nov 5, 2016 18:47:19 GMT
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Post by cuthound on Nov 5, 2016 18:56:52 GMT
So PC Vlad Balog is investigating.
Lets hope he is a descendent of Vlad the Impaler. Karma Indeed!
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Nov 5, 2016 18:57:26 GMT
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 5, 2016 18:57:26 GMT
Quite possibly a druggie - they'd steal the clothes off your back for their next fix, sadly. Even more sadly I have experience of it with a member of my extended family. Nothing can help if they don't want to help themselves. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 5, 2016 19:32:56 GMT
Quite possibly a druggie - they'd steal the clothes off your back for their next fix, sadly. Even more sadly I have experience of it with a member of my extended family. Nothing can help if they don't want to help themselves. I've been flamed for saying this so many times, but I honestly believe that the use of all recreational drugs, up to and including heroin, should be de-criminalised and these drugs should be freely available on the NHS. Firstly, with proper pharmaceutical quality control, the drugs would be much purer- it is the brick dust and other crap added to heroin that makes it so dangerous to users. Secondly, if obtained through legal means by the NHS heroin would cost a fraction of the street price, which would remove the need for virtually all drug-driven street crime. Thirdly, it would provide a legitimate income for countries such as Afghanistan, and let's face it, dropping bombs on them hasn't been a very successful strategy over the last 35 years or so. Fourthly, it would remove a lot of the "glamour" from getting involved in the scene in the first place. Fifthly, drug criminalisation simply doesn't work, in the same way that alcohol prohibition didn't work in the US, and just as prohibition did, "the war on drugs" simply gives birth to violent criminal gangs who commit thousands of murders annually, not just on rivals but also their extended families, and also law enforcement officers and their extended families. Well, them's my thoughts anyway.  |
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 5, 2016 19:38:18 GMT
Quite possibly a druggie - they'd steal the clothes off your back for their next fix, sadly. Even more sadly I have experience of it with a member of my extended family. Nothing can help if they don't want to help themselves. I've been flamed for saying this so many times, but I honestly believe that the use of all recreational drugs, up to and including heroin, should be de-criminalised and these drugs should be freely available on the NHS. Firstly, with proper pharmaceutical quality control, the drugs would be much purer- it is the brick dust and other crap added to heroin that makes it so dangerous to users. Secondly, if obtained through legal means by the NHS heroin would cost a fraction of the street price, which would remove the need for virtually all drug-driven street crime. Thirdly, it would provide a legitimate income for countries such as Afghanistan, and let's face it, dropping bombs on them hasn't been a very successful strategy over the last 35 years or so. Fourthly, it would remove a lot of the "glamour" from getting involved in the scene in the first place. Fifthly, drug criminalisation simply doesn't work, in the same way that alcohol prohibition didn't work in the US, and just as prohibition did, "the war on drugs" simply gives birth to violent criminal gangs who commit thousands of murders annually, not just on rivals but also their extended families, and also law enforcement officers and their extended families. Well, them's my thoughts anyway. A very persuasive argument that I find difficult to pick fault with |
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Post by patty on Nov 5, 2016 20:29:02 GMT
Totally unrelated to football but there was some rather nice poppy sellers in Covent Garden on Thursday and yep got a cuddle from Anton du Beck, Brendon Coles, Ed Balls and another(haven't a scoobies who but loverly looking) and the RAF jazz band was playing...all to sell poppies..now that what I call great afternoon.
Its kinda unrelated to drugs as well, but I cannot comment on them..our family ripped apart by cannabis addiction.
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Post by auntsally on Nov 6, 2016 14:38:14 GMT
The abuse of drugs will never be prevented so I agree with Iconoclast.
Make it legal and regulated.
Same as Women of the night, make places where men of that persuasion can go and engage in sex with 'clean' women.
Sorry, back to poppies I wear mine with pride as my grandfather served near Ypres in 1915. I shall get his medals out on 11/11 when I watch the Eng V Scot game.....Daft I know, but he did like his footy too.
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Post by bodger on Nov 6, 2016 16:44:57 GMT
Quite possibly a druggie - they'd steal the clothes off your back for their next fix, sadly. Even more sadly I have experience of it with a member of my extended family. Nothing can help if they don't want to help themselves. I've been flamed for saying this so many times, but I honestly believe that the use of all recreational drugs, up to and including heroin, should be de-criminalised and these drugs should be freely available on the NHS. Firstly, with proper pharmaceutical quality control, the drugs would be much purer- it is the brick dust and other crap added to heroin that makes it so dangerous to users. Secondly, if obtained through legal means by the NHS heroin would cost a fraction of the street price, which would remove the need for virtually all drug-driven street crime. Thirdly, it would provide a legitimate income for countries such as Afghanistan, and let's face it, dropping bombs on them hasn't been a very successful strategy over the last 35 years or so. Fourthly, it would remove a lot of the "glamour" from getting involved in the scene in the first place. Fifthly, drug criminalisation simply doesn't work, in the same way that alcohol prohibition didn't work in the US, and just as prohibition did, "the war on drugs" simply gives birth to violent criminal gangs who commit thousands of murders annually, not just on rivals but also their extended families, and also law enforcement officers and their extended families. Well, them's my thoughts anyway. I share that view, I have long ago come to the conclusion that there is a vested interest in the drugs trade that benefits some very influential people. |
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Post by peterboat on Nov 6, 2016 17:10:06 GMT
Having seen the effects of a drug users car accident, and the fall out from it. I would force all drug dealers to have to take all the drugs they are caught with. I dont like drugs and the things they cause and I dont believe making them legal would help at all
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 6, 2016 17:28:58 GMT
Having seen the effects of a drug users car accident, and the fall out from it. I would force all drug dealers to have to take all the drugs they are caught with. I dont like drugs and the things they cause and I dont believe making them legal would help at all However, if it was legalised then the authorities would know who was a user because they'd be getting their prescription. It would then be a simple step to remove their driving license until they were clean. Just a thought. |
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Post by Delta9 on Nov 6, 2016 17:31:42 GMT
We could also confiscate the driving licences of all people found to be purchasing alcohol...
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 6, 2016 17:37:31 GMT
We could also confiscate the driving licences of all people found to be purchasing alcohol... I was thinking more of class A drugs, but I take your point. |
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Post by peterboat on Nov 6, 2016 17:50:26 GMT
We could also confiscate the driving licences of all people found to be purchasing alcohol... I was thinking more of class A drugs, but I take your point. Some cannabis is very very strong, and is causing flashbacks long after if you had been drinking you would be safe to drive |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 6, 2016 17:54:24 GMT
I was thinking more of class A drugs, but I take your point. Some cannabis is very very strong, and is causing flashbacks long after if you had been drinking you would be safe to drive But this goes back to the point I was making earlier. In the Netherlands, where cannabis use is tolerated and regulated, there is a far lower rate of use than in the USA, where drug law is severe. www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Netherlands_v_US#sthash.Wkwjy0ge.dpbs |
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