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Post by kris on Apr 23, 2017 14:05:18 GMT
Well moonraker fits in with the James bond theme.
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Post by Boaty on Apr 23, 2017 14:37:52 GMT
Shocking name for an electric boat It gets worse I have fixed the ailing 1500 BMC it now starts after a couple of seconds heat and is smoke free in about 10 seconds I have an interested party with it just cleaned up. Or another with a strip out and refit with the BMC and the finale option is the full electric conversion. The problem is Jayne doesnt like the bathtub at all! and wants a James Bondi type broads cruiser, so it might be sell both and convert one of those to electric My 1500 BMC can be a pig to start in cold weather. The white smoke does not hang around for long though and clears after a few seconds -I believe it to be unburned diesel that builds up during the slow to start period. What did you do to improve starting?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 15:09:13 GMT
Well moonraker fits in with the James bond theme. They also have a certain Jaguarness about them - something Peter seems to have!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 15:16:50 GMT
It gets worse I have fixed the ailing 1500 BMC it now starts after a couple of seconds heat and is smoke free in about 10 seconds I have an interested party with it just cleaned up. Or another with a strip out and refit with the BMC and the finale option is the full electric conversion. The problem is Jayne doesnt like the bathtub at all! and wants a James Bondi type broads cruiser, so it might be sell both and convert one of those to electric My 1500 BMC can be a pig to start in cold weather. The white smoke does not hang around for long though and clears after a few seconds -I believe it to be unburned diesel that builds up during the slow to start period. What did you do to improve starting? Usual culprits are:- Knackered glow plugs. Carbon build up on glow plugs and pre combustion chamber. Worn injectors - around £25 a pop to have overhauled. Incorrect valve clearances. Low compression. The plugs can be a world of pain, I'll reply further in depth on that subject later.
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Post by JohnV on Apr 23, 2017 15:29:18 GMT
I always found with BMC's that a good load of Anglo Saxon together with a threatening motion with a very large club hammer produced successful results
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Post by Boaty on Apr 23, 2017 15:34:45 GMT
I always found with BMC's that a good load of Anglo Saxon together with a threatening motion with a very large club hammer produced successful results That's exactly how I do it
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Post by Boaty on Apr 23, 2017 15:38:15 GMT
My 1500 BMC can be a pig to start in cold weather. The white smoke does not hang around for long though and clears after a few seconds -I believe it to be unburned diesel that builds up during the slow to start period. What did you do to improve starting? Usual culprits are:- Knackered glow plugs. Carbon build up on glow plugs and pre combustion chamber. Worn injectors - around £25 a pop to have overhauled. Incorrect valve clearances. Low compression. The plugs can be a world of pain, I'll reply further in depth on that subject later. Just as I thought. Would not compression be a consistent problem - it is only in the cold weather that the engine plays up and even then it starts after about 45 seconds preheating and a few bursts open the starter. In the warmer weather, like now, it is fine and just smokes a bit initially (white smoke). I would have thought poor compression would have created issues throughout the year?
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Post by peterboat on Apr 23, 2017 16:02:37 GMT
Usual culprits are:- Knackered glow plugs. Carbon build up on glow plugs and pre combustion chamber. Worn injectors - around £25 a pop to have overhauled. Incorrect valve clearances. Low compression. The plugs can be a world of pain, I'll reply further in depth on that subject later. Just as I thought. Would not compression be a consistent problem - it is only in the cold weather that the engine plays up and even then it starts after about 45 seconds preheating and a few bursts open the starter. In the warmer weather, like now, it is fine and just smokes a bit initially (white smoke). I would have thought poor compression would have created issues throughout the year? I have just bought a set of glow plugs from ebay under £15 for the 4 I had to drill out the hole where the plug goes into so that it would go in easy. The previous plugs were only in for just over a year and 3 had failed! I think they were from Calcutt, these new ones have done the job very well. The Injectors were the first thing I sorted the nozzles are different to 1800 engines according to Tony Brookes and as he knows his stuff I am sure he is right. Starting now is preheat for 3-4 seconds and it will start without any throttle, so for me its a good engine with 40 psi at 1500 rpm. I am no fan of these engines but unless I go the full electric route It will stay.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 16:02:54 GMT
Usual culprits are:- Knackered glow plugs. Carbon build up on glow plugs and pre combustion chamber. Worn injectors - around £25 a pop to have overhauled. Incorrect valve clearances. Low compression. The plugs can be a world of pain, I'll reply further in depth on that subject later. Just as I thought. Would not compression be a consistent problem - it is only in the cold weather that the engine plays up and even then it starts after about 45 seconds preheating and a few bursts open the starter. In the warmer weather, like now, it is fine and just smokes a bit initially (white smoke). I would have thought poor compression would have created issues throughout the year? Tired engines are always harder to start in the cold. Remember, a diesel is Compression Ignition, low compression = pants ignition! Magnified with a drop in temperature - particularly with an indirect injection engine like the BMC. We had a leggy fiesta diesel that could be a bitch to start in low temp, on two occasions I nearly ran out of electric before she burst into life, one december at Luton airport after 10 days in Gran Canaria, one January after 7 days work in Rochdale, wasn't bothered about the Luton job, being stuck in Rochdale scared the shit out of me Odds on its either plugs or injectors, or a combination of both
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Post by peterboat on Apr 23, 2017 16:06:39 GMT
It gets worse I have fixed the ailing 1500 BMC it now starts after a couple of seconds heat and is smoke free in about 10 seconds I have an interested party with it just cleaned up. Or another with a strip out and refit with the BMC and the finale option is the full electric conversion. The problem is Jayne doesnt like the bathtub at all! and wants a James Bondi type broads cruiser, so it might be sell both and convert one of those to electric I've not yet met Pete but, i get the impression you and a Moonraker would be a match made in heaven. m.facebook.com/Moonraker-Boats-JCL-Marine-119941288027818/?locale2=en_GBI do like the modern Broads cruisers they look like boats rather than the bathtub we have. Also to live on 44 foot is a better proposition than the 32 foot bathtub!! Anyway will see what happens in the next few weeks before we decide what we do
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Post by tomsk on Apr 23, 2017 17:53:01 GMT
I wouldn't tile, too much likelihood of flexing.
I would go for a marine ply or similar construction laid to falls with a coved, commercial grade floor covering.
Avoid pumps
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I have a quantity of 'Altro' flooring knocking about, enough to do a wet room and possibly galley. If anyones interested in picking it up I'll run a tape across it.
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Post by Boaty on Apr 23, 2017 18:20:17 GMT
Wet rooms are constructed in houses on wooden floors so I would not really expect there to be a huge issue with flexing where the tiling is onto 18mm ply, especially if the tiles are bedded on the correct "sticky stuff". I am certainly willing to risk it :-)
I am talking about the shower tray here and not the walls, which will be treated differently.
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Post by bodger on Apr 23, 2017 19:15:24 GMT
I wouldn't tile, too much likelihood of flexing. I would go for a marine ply or similar construction laid to falls with a coved, commercial grade floor covering. Avoid pumps p.s. I have a quantity of 'Altro' flooring knocking about, enough to do a wet room and possibly galley. If anyones interested in picking it up I'll run a tape across it. that's how I did it 10 years ago.
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Post by Jim on Apr 25, 2017 15:54:16 GMT
For shapfell; I fitted a full bogshed from a caravan in my small narrowboat, 3 pieces, toilet,floor pan and sink/mirror/cupboard moulding. I used the 3 internal walls from the caravan. I cut the angle of the sink moulding to fit the tumblehome by eye. Re-lined/lined some of the walls and ceiling with white upvc board. The thetford cassette units can fit right or left handed,so I just swapped some gubbins around and put the cassette door in the wall into the boat rather than the outside as with the caravan. I replaced the taps with standard bath/shower mixer tap. Works a treat.
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Post by JohnV on Apr 25, 2017 16:21:44 GMT
Thanks for that Jim ...... The loo in Shapfell is tiny and without chopping about the still original fitout I'm not sure it's possible SAM_0401 by mudlarker2, on Flickr and if you think it looks tiny here ..... when you see the full width of the boat at that point you can see it's really tiny !!! You can't move the bulkhead between the galley and the loo because the engine is under the kitchen sink !!! SAM_0407 by mudlarker2, on Flickr
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