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Post by bodger on Nov 25, 2017 9:31:59 GMT
So the vandals are targeting holidaymakers who park their cars in convenient residential areas close to Luton Airport for a week or two, which are then vandalised by locals. Good for them (I can hardly believe I'm saying). Street parking has become the scourge of society, most residential streets are simply elongated car parks, anywhere close to a bus stop or train station is clogged with parked cars for the whole of the working day. Residents try to reserve the street parking outside their houses by various means, many enterprising residents create a wide entrance so they can park 2 cars on their front garden and no-one else can park outside their houses, even for 5 minutes, because of potential obstruction claims.
Unbelievably, I am going to say that councils should introduce parking charges everywhere that a problem exists, including for local residents. In the parts of NW London where my daughter has lived over the past 5 years there have always been parking charges and the parking scourge no longer exists.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 10:02:07 GMT
Its odd that someone will spend hundreds of pounds for a week or two in the sun but won't spend money on airport parking. I don't agree with vandalising someone's car, but, on the part of the holidaymaker it is a fairly foolish and high risk thing to do.
This story was on Anglia news in the summer BTW so it's hardly a new phenomena.
It's years since I last flew anywhere, to Stockholm with SAS, they had excellent value valet parking at the SAS Radisson Stanstead. I maintain the extra to park your car reasonably safe in the knowledge it won't be trashed when you get back is money well spent.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 25, 2017 10:49:20 GMT
It's years since I last flew anywhere, to Stockholm with SAS, they had excellent value valet parking at the SAS Radisson Stanstead. I always found SAS good for parking, in fact I had a spot right outside the Iranian embassy. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 12:03:36 GMT
So the vandals are targeting holidaymakers who park their cars in convenient residential areas close to Luton Airport for a week or two, which are then vandalised by locals. Good for them (I can hardly believe I'm saying). Street parking has become the scourge of society, most residential streets are simply elongated car parks, anywhere close to a bus stop or train station is clogged with parked cars for the whole of the working day. Residents try to reserve the street parking outside their houses by various means, many enterprising residents create a wide entrance so they can park 2 cars on their front garden and no-one else can park outside their houses, even for 5 minutes, because of potential obstruction claims. Unbelievably, I am going to say that councils should introduce parking charges everywhere that a problem exists, including for local residents. In the parts of NW London where my daughter has lived over the past 5 years there have always been parking charges and the parking scourge no longer exists. It actually isn't illegal to obstruct a driveway. The Highway Code may say don't do it but it's not an offence like obstructing a highway. So they may think they have solved the problem by widening the drive and most people would respect it and not park across it, however if some knob jockey wanted to ignore it they still could. |
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Post by phil70 on Nov 25, 2017 16:13:17 GMT
In West London not only have they introduced resident parking permits (at a cost) but they have closed roads off with steel gates to prevent rat running . This does make life a tad awkward for local residents. The emergency services do have a key.
Phil
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Post by thebfg on Nov 25, 2017 18:47:40 GMT
Its odd that someone will spend hundreds of pounds for a week or two in the sun but won't spend money on airport parking. I don't agree with vandalising someone's car, but, on the part of the holidaymaker it is a fairly foolish and high risk thing to do. And especially luton. We recently used the mid term car park. You come off the motorway and three minutes later your parked up. We waited two minutes for a free bus and less than five minutes later we were checking in. All this for 35 quid for 8 days parking. From collecting our luggage we were then driving down the M1 in under twenty minutes. Why would you park in a residents area, then have to find and pay for transport to the airport just to save 35 quid. A taxi there and back would take up most of the saving. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 18:57:15 GMT
Its odd that someone will spend hundreds of pounds for a week or two in the sun but won't spend money on airport parking. I don't agree with vandalising someone's car, but, on the part of the holidaymaker it is a fairly foolish and high risk thing to do. ... just to save 35 quid. ... 35 quid, thats more than I paid for my flights to Lanzagrotty! |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 25, 2017 19:05:29 GMT
In West London not only have they introduced resident parking permits (at a cost) but they have closed roads off with steel gates to prevent rat running . Back in the mid 1980s I was a minicab driver and one day I picked up a young woman who immediately started moaning about the number of motorists who used her road as a "rat run". On the way to her destination, she pointed to a residential street ahead and said "You can turn down there, it's a short cut".  |
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Post by faffer on Nov 27, 2017 19:22:08 GMT
I think the residents doing the dirty are as bad if not worse than the folk leaving there cars parked where they are allowed to.
I dont agree with either side of it.
To save a few quid on parking or taxi to and from the airport.
thes things will alays be when you get ignorant people about.
Just a group to get to the council would sort it. It worked around the hospitals around here. All residential areas are for residents parking only and get wardens around often.
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Post by NigelMoore on Nov 27, 2017 23:23:16 GMT
It actually isn't illegal to obstruct a driveway. The Highway Code may say don't do it but it's not an offence like obstructing a highway. So they may think they have solved the problem by widening the drive and most people would respect it and not park across it, however if some knob jockey wanted to ignore it they still could. But if the resident's access is blocked, they can ask the police to tow the car away and impound it. It's happened to a friend of mine, and when I was once blocked in a another friend's house by someone parking across the driveway, and I tried to shove it away with my car [unsuccessfully, but with considerable damage to the obstructing vehicle] the owner came by and went ballistic [his was a very expensive new car; mine was an old Ford Granada station wagon]. When the police arrived, they told me that I should have rung them to come and remove it, which they would have given priority to. So whether it is an offence or not, it is a risky and potentially expensive liberty to take. |
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Post by JohnV on Nov 28, 2017 8:15:03 GMT
It actually isn't illegal to obstruct a driveway. The Highway Code may say don't do it but it's not an offence like obstructing a highway. So they may think they have solved the problem by widening the drive and most people would respect it and not park across it, however if some knob jockey wanted to ignore it they still could. But if the resident's access is blocked, they can ask the police to tow the car away and impound it. It's happened to a friend of mine, and when I was once blocked in a another friend's house by someone parking across the driveway, and I tried to shove it away with my car [unsuccessfully, but with considerable damage to the obstructing vehicle] the owner came by and went ballistic [his was a very expensive new car; mine was an old Ford Granada station wagon]. When the police arrived, they told me that I should have rung them to come and remove it, which they would have given priority to. So whether it is an offence or not, it is a risky and potentially expensive liberty to take. I was told that it is not an offence to stop someone from entering their driveway but that it is an offence to prevent someone leaving. the writer accepts no responsibility for the legal accuracy of this statement  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 8:50:04 GMT
Its odd that someone will spend hundreds of pounds for a week or two in the sun but won't spend money on airport parking. I don't agree with vandalising someone's car, but, on the part of the holidaymaker it is a fairly foolish and high risk thing to do. And especially luton. We recently used the mid term car park. You come off the motorway and three minutes later your parked up. We waited two minutes for a free bus and less than five minutes later we were checking in. All this for 35 quid for 8 days parking. From collecting our luggage we were then driving down the M1 in under twenty minutes. Why would you park in a residents area, then have to find and pay for transport to the airport just to save 35 quid. A taxi there and back would take up most of the saving. I don't do these sorts of things but when one leaves a car at one of these paid sites do you have to leave your key with them? I'm sure there was a case where people would pay to park on a secure site but their vehicles were moved to a public road once they had fekked off. If you do need to leave keys then I'd suggest noting the mileometer and maybe something like a steering lock or cable ties to connect steering wheel and clutch or something. Maybe you don't leave the keys anyway and I imagined it. |
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Post by thebfg on Nov 28, 2017 9:07:32 GMT
And especially luton. We recently used the mid term car park. You come off the motorway and three minutes later your parked up. We waited two minutes for a free bus and less than five minutes later we were checking in. All this for 35 quid for 8 days parking. From collecting our luggage we were then driving down the M1 in under twenty minutes. Why would you park in a residents area, then have to find and pay for transport to the airport just to save 35 quid. A taxi there and back would take up most of the saving. I don't do these sorts of things but when one leaves a car at one of these paid sites do you have to leave your key with them? I'm sure there was a case where people would pay to park on a secure site but their vehicles were moved to a public road once they had fekked off. If you do need to leave keys then I'd suggest noting the mileometer and maybe something like a steering lock or cable ties to connect steering wheel and clutch or something. Maybe you don't leave the keys anyway and I imagined it. I've never left my keys. there are some that you drive to the terminal and leave the car in the short term car park and drop your keys in a box. The company drive your car to an off site car park which is cheaper. There are bad story's isn't here companys. All though I'm sure they are not all bad. www.itv.com/news/meridian/story/2016-06-28/warning-after-1-000-cars-left-in-muddy-field-by-airport-parking-companies/ |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 9:12:09 GMT
So is it possible that the vehicles mentioned in the OP are in fact not put there by their owners?
That would seem to change the story a bit if it were the case.
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Post by thebfg on Nov 28, 2017 9:18:25 GMT
But if the resident's access is blocked, they can ask the police to tow the car away and impound it. It's happened to a friend of mine, and when I was once blocked in a another friend's house by someone parking across the driveway, and I tried to shove it away with my car [unsuccessfully, but with considerable damage to the obstructing vehicle] the owner came by and went ballistic [his was a very expensive new car; mine was an old Ford Granada station wagon]. When the police arrived, they told me that I should have rung them to come and remove it, which they would have given priority to. So whether it is an offence or not, it is a risky and potentially expensive liberty to take. I was told that it is not an offence to stop someone from entering their driveway but that it is an offence to prevent someone leaving. the writer accepts no responsibility for the legal accuracy of this statement I've known people to have parking tickets recinded, in cases where there are marked parking spaces in front of people's drives. AFAIK the white line they out across a drive has no legal basis. And no offence can be committed parking on such line. However I have all ways had the same view as you. Although I've not actually seen a law or regulation that would make it an offence Eta Anyone has a legal right to enter a driveway. Blocking a vehicle from the highway MAY be unnecessary obstruction. This is a matter for the police and I'm unaware if a council parking warden good ticket for it. So maybe a police matter |
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