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Post by thebfg on Jan 27, 2018 13:55:42 GMT
worried enough that I have done it! Caravan arrived today very interesting backing a 7ft4 wide caravan through an 8ft gateway from a narrow lane....... Just got to sell the Norman 20 which at present is safely avoiding the river on its trailer at the local marina. Still got the NB and GU mooring that will stay at least until I stop working and retire....... Welcome to the clique, with me and MJG, unless there are others not admitting to owning a caravan. We used to have one and a trailer tent , which I actually preferred. We not just stick to the tent.
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Post by Jim on Jan 27, 2018 15:12:20 GMT
Welcome to the clique, with me and MJG, unless there are others not admitting to owning a caravan. Yes but for some reason I think your caravan is a "cool one" ? My younger daughter (5.8 y.o) keeps telling me to get a "camping car". Her mother tongue is French and this is French for campervan. I hate VWs but for a long time I have really liked the old Commers. I know they are old wrecks mainly and slow but I really like them. If I fall over a nice one I may be tempted. Tis very cool ta muchly. GRP box on wheels Freedom Prima Jetstream, 2 berth. Top Gear hung one from a balloon. I'd like an eriba, not the puck cos no room for bog, next model up would do. Pop top makes a goodly difference to fuel used to pull it. I had a Commer walkthrough as a self fit out camper. Not as pretty as that little one, but more room.
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Post by lollygagger on Jan 27, 2018 15:20:42 GMT
I used to occasionally drive a commer like that for a band. It was a proper shit pile of crap, I like 'em. π
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Post by lollygagger on Jan 27, 2018 15:27:07 GMT
Welcome to the clique, with me and MJG, unless there are others not admitting to owning a caravan. Yes but for some reason I think your caravan is a "cool one" ? My younger daughter (5.8 y.o) keeps telling me to get a "camping car". Her mother tongue is French and this is French for campervan. I hate VWs but for a long time I have really liked the old Commers. I know they are old wrecks mainly and slow but I really like them. If I fall over a nice one I may be tempted. You know that your daughter will not be happy with a Commer and that she means a VW, like one of your relatives has IIRC. A victim of the bloody things being associated with freedom and fun by advertisers, many grown ups are suckered in by this too, just like with narrowboats.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 19:18:04 GMT
I used to occasionally drive a commer like that for a band. It was a proper shit pile of crap, I like 'em. π My first band had a Bedford CA. The second one had a Transit with a V6 engine, aircraft seats the works that was a fun vehicle.
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Post by JohnV on Jan 27, 2018 19:28:07 GMT
wasn't the band "Airport" ? was it they had a crew cab twin wheeler with the V6 that was s**t off a shovel
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Post by larkboy on Jan 27, 2018 20:17:41 GMT
Yeeee ha, best bit of waterways news I've had for a while...the E.A may be a long way from perfect, but in my humble opinion a much more competent bunch of fuckwits than CRT..! πππΎπΎπ
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 7:50:45 GMT
wasn't the band "Airport" ?Β was itΒ they had a crew cab twin wheeler with the V6 that was s**t off a shovel No ours was a LWB standard body with a diesel front to accommodate the v6. There was a SWB about at the time with the same engine, that was quick.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 9:32:12 GMT
So what is the future of EA administered navigations? I don't know a lot about it but presumably there is some sort of problem with the EA ? Otherwise why would consideration be given to CRT taking over? Could EA navigations be privatised ? All a bit odd. I've used the Thames every year since the early 90s and the only thing I have noticed is less lock keepers lately but it all seems to run quite well anyway as a lot of the locks are automated.
I like lock keepers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 10:13:09 GMT
Status quo I should think. As in, DEFRA grant continually squeezed, navigation budget restrictions and a year on year inflation busting rise for licence fees. That's bad enough but at least it doesn't bring the added uselessness of the C&RT mob. Even a rebranding excersise retaining the current EA navigation management and team would have been a criminal waste of the limited funds the EA and C&RT tell is they have. It's a pointless vanity excersise with little or no benefit to waterways users. A bit like C&RT being formed
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Post by kris on Jan 28, 2018 10:32:55 GMT
Your forgetting the main purpose of forming Crt was privatising the waterways by stealth. The massive transference of public assets to the control of a private entity, is nothing short of a major conjuring trick.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jan 28, 2018 11:07:05 GMT
Your forgetting the main purpose of forming Crt was privatising the waterways by stealth. The massive transference of public assets to the control of a private entity, is nothing short of a major conjuring trick. It's vitally important that this point kris is making about the 'back door', or stealth, privatization of public assets is understood and publicized as widely as is possible. The inland waterways that were entrusted, in July 2012, into the care of a private limited company (and make no mistake that is precisely what C&RT is) were a 'nationalized' asset. They were taken 'into public ownership' in 1949, . . in other words, they belong to you, to me, in fact to all of us, and once again a few of the lying, two faced gits that we vote into Parliament every 4 to 5 years have 'put one over' on the all too gullible and apathetic British public by in effect giving away something we all own to a bunch of con-artists to do as they wish with.
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Post by NigelMoore on Jan 28, 2018 11:10:30 GMT
Your forgetting the main purpose of forming Crt was privatising the waterways by stealth. The massive transference of public assets to the control of a private entity, is nothing short of a major conjuring trick. βConjuring trickβ suggests deception β yet the whole point of the exercise was clear enough from the start, as was the open admission of how adversely the change-over would affect the network for years yet to come. Boaters as a whole cannot escape the charge of complicity through inaction; there was plenty of opportunity to raise cogent objections to the transfer into the private sector, while the Public Bodies Bill was being debated. Had enough individuals and organisations put their heads together and presented parliament with detailed assessments of the impact, significant amendments at least, might well have been made to the terms of the Transfer Order [unlikely it could have been prevented altogether, given Cameronβs determination to bulldoze the legislation through]. The tiny minority that did engage in the process made quite an impact, and obtained small but significant amendments. Think what could have been achieved had all the other big boater organisations exerted as much effort in analysis and active recommendations. Boater complacency and lazy optimism are as much to blame as anything else, for the situation we now have.
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Post by NigelMoore on Jan 28, 2018 11:17:46 GMT
It's vitally important that this point kris is making about the 'back door', or stealth, privatization of public assets is understood and publicized as widely as is possible. The inland waterways that were entrusted, in July 2012, into the care of a private limited company (and make no mistake that is precisely what C&RT is) were a 'nationalized' asset. They were taken 'into public ownership' in 1949, . . in other words, they belong to you, to me, in fact to all of us, and once again a few of the lying, two faced gits that we vote into Parliament every 4 to 5 years have 'put one over' on the all too gullible and apathetic British public by in effect giving away something we all own to a bunch of con-artists to do as they wish with. The important thing would be to get every application to the Secretary of State [for consent to sell off parts of the Infrastructure Trust portfolio] publicised widely in the boating press, so that everbody had the opportunity to stick their oar in and protest. It is scary to think just how much Parry has managed to dispose of on the quiet, with only nominal public notice. Again, protections against surreptitious disposals could have been worked out, had the 'professionals' in the larger more influential boating organisations put their heads to the task when it mattered.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 11:41:17 GMT
Cue naughtyfox
-stupid Boaters get what they ordered.
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