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Post by smileypete on Jun 10, 2016 16:49:00 GMT
Ms Billington is described in the article as a "staunch campaigner for refugees", and in the case mentioned a refugee has done exactly what Calais refugees are there to attempt to do. I wouldn't exactly say I wished it on her, she has been more naive and stupid than anything else, and in fairness to her she does seem to have learned a lesson, because she says she won't be going back to Calais again. Working on the assumption that she isn't complicit in any way the Eritrean lady in question hasn't exactly showed her gratitude for Ms Billington's giving of her time and efforts in order to help, something she herself hints at in the article. There's a video on Youtube of French volunteers taking food to the camp, then some are rejecting it as the tins were past the 'best before' Hardly the behaviour of refugees escaping from a war zone in fear of their lives... |
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Post by PaulG2 on Jun 10, 2016 17:19:37 GMT
Thousands of ordinary folk cross the channel each and every day - what lead her to be picked out? Unless it was a genuine random search which they do do on 'ordinary' vehicles and she has been caught out. Quite possibly the Border Agency have undercover people posing as aid workers in the Jungle, who were aware of the Eritrean lady's attempt at concealment and phoned their buddies at the port. In the booze cruise days, HMRC had undercover people stationed at Adinkerke every day, watching what people loaded into the boot of their cars. Nearly all of the searches at Calais are intelligence-led, rather than being random stops, although HMRC always present them as the latter. I don't know what really happened here, but border agents are pretty observant. If the driver were aware of the person in the trunk boot, they would be nervous and the agent would pick up on that real quick. Probably more likely, though, is that there was some minor damage done to the keyway or latch on the boot lid, from the process of opening it without a key, and the inspector noticed it. I'm just guessing, but it's as good a guess as anyone's.... |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 10, 2016 17:56:35 GMT
For me, the delicious irony is that CDS asked me to join because the other place was so crap and this was so good, and yet he's buggered off. Again, it seems. Oh, are we allowed "off topic" on this pile of dung? Yes, your choice, off topic or on topic. The whole point of Thunderboat is that you are expressly permitted to discuss current affairs, which you can't do on CWDF. This arrest is a current affair, it happened in East Kent, which is where I live, and it was posted on the KentOnline website, which is a fairly neutral page covering news in Kent. So it's a perfectly legitimate topic of debate, according to the rules the site owner has decided on. As for why cds has left, he minced off melodramatically into the virtual sunset a couple of hours before I even started this thread, so it won't be anything to do with this. |
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 10, 2016 20:44:01 GMT
She went to Calais to give succour and support to people whose solt in being there is to attempt to smuggle themselves across the Channel on motor vehicles. She would have been fully aware that any driver unwittingly landing illegal immigrants would face enormous fines, confiscation of their vehicle etc, and yet she just didn't care. And somebody did exactly the same thing to her, as she was attempting to facilitate towards others. That is the irony. And yes, why shouldn't she be fined? And her driving licence cancelled for 10 years. I look at these parasites and see that they have no intention of 'integrating' - only bringing THEIR culture and religion along and expecting - nay, demanding - that we accept it. They have ruined their own countries, now they want to ruin ours. Ever tried lock-wheeling in a burka? |
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Post by macwolfelee on Jun 12, 2016 10:47:45 GMT
I see some of the illegal immigrant problem as one of ingratitude, and some as good training.
We went and took over their countries and showed them how to be civilised.
In many cases we enlightened them with the Christian religion. We showed them how to impose one's culture on another country.
When they wanted us to leave we did so, but sold them weapons to defend themselves and make it easier to kill each other.
And now they want to do what Iconoclast suggests and do the best for themselves and their families, never mind us.
Sheer ingratitude.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 12, 2016 12:11:35 GMT
The best irony would gave been once her car got to leafy Surrey and she opened the boot to let him out, instead if saying Thanks and skipping away into the darkness, he dragged her into her house, beat her up, raped her and then slit her throat.
Many if these Iraqis are killers from the front line. The beheaders you see on Youtube videos do indeed pop up in Finland and Sweden.
Still... if you like halal slaughter methods and kebabs... what's wrong with that?
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 12, 2016 12:28:47 GMT
OK, it was a woman.
By the way, our car was searched at Hoek of Holland, but in a sloppy manner, I was unimpressed with their thoroughness.
So far no-one on Canalworld nor Thunderboat has described how they would like to see the world. What kind of 'Multiculturalism' and 'Integration' are we hoping for? Even Wanted was silent on this one.
I do tend to paint the worst scenarios sometimes, but I am usually willing to peruse alternative outlooks to my own.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 13:20:20 GMT
OK, it was a woman. By the way, our car was searched at Hoek of Holland, but in a sloppy manner, I was unimpressed with their thoroughness. So far no-one on Canalworld nor Thunderboat has described how they would like to see the world. What kind of 'Multiculturalism' and 'Integration' are we hoping for? Even Wanted was silent on this one. I do tend to paint the worst scenarios sometimes, but I am usually willing to peruse alternative outlooks to my own. Culture and integration aren't the biggest problems, greed and the desire for power and control are. After all we could look at the world as just being one big happy village. We all have different abilities, skills and knowledge to offer. None of us are really 'worth' more than others but the monetary system allows some individuals to be 'worth' millions of times more than others. Basically, the world's resources are not being shared out fairly. A Darwinian type approach would be that the strongest should survive so it doesn't really matter. Whether we agree with that philosophy depends whether you are one of the lucky ones or not and whether you care about others. |
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Post by rockdodger on Jun 12, 2016 14:58:39 GMT
I would be very surprised if this was not the result of undercover agents reporting in what they hear & see, despite what government agencies publicly report - after all they are not going to openly show their hand or put undercover resources at risk.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 12, 2016 20:52:40 GMT
I agree with Bassplayer's comment above, but if you've read The Selfish Gene (by Doctor Who's assistant's husband) it is so, that 'the strongest (or most suitably adapted) survive'.
Cockroaches have been on this planet for 400 million years, and some if them can take a dose of nuclear radiation as if they were sunbathing at Skegness. Gotta take your hat off to the little critters, eh?
To them, Humans are just irritating gatecrashers.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 12, 2016 20:58:25 GMT
Cockroaches have been on this planet for 400 million years, and some if them can take a dose of nuclear radiation as if they were sunbathing at Skegness. Them pesky bacterias too. You can bury them in Siberia for 50,000 years but as soon as it warms up a bit, off they go again. |
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 12, 2016 20:59:10 GMT
(edited as computer somewhere having a wonky fit leading to post being repeated)
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