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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 14, 2018 20:16:55 GMT
At Autherley Junction there was a wood pigeon splahing around in the water, and we guessed he was waterlogged and eventually going to become exhausted and drown, so we reversed our boat and I got on the towpath and lifted him up with one of our gangplanks. I would have had him inside the boat beside our stove to dry out, but Finns have a phobia about Wild Animals (although they claim to 'love Nature') so he was left beside the towpath.
Chugged into the darkness to Brewood. The Lion Hotel looked a bit too modern and trendy for our taste, the Swan Hotel and Bridge Inn don't do food on a Sunday evening, so I made a nice chicken korma curry in the boat, to be washed down with Stoke-on-Trent beer (White Star from Burslem).
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Post by Allan on Oct 14, 2018 21:12:42 GMT
Not a good idea.
Some years ago I managed to retrieve a drowning pigeon from that bit of canal that has several names - the link between the GU and S-on-A.
I phoned my daughter, a veterinary nurse, for advice and received the following -
1. check the bird for obvious injuries.
2. if no obvious injuries, place the bird in a small, quiet and warm enclosure with plenty of water (we used a hiking boot bag).
3. Check after 18-24 hours.
4. If still alive ring its neck.
Our bird flew away whilst we were arguing about my daughters sense of humour.
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 14, 2018 21:20:22 GMT
At Autherley Junction there was a wood pigeon splahing around in the water, and we guessed he was waterlogged and eventually going to become exhausted and drown, so we reversed our boat and I got on the towpath and lifted him up with one of our gangplanks. I would have had him inside the boat beside our stove to dry out, but Finns have a phobia about Wild Animals (although they claim to 'love Nature') so he was left beside the towpath. Chugged into the darkness to Brewood. The Lion Hotel looked a bit too modern and trendy for our taste, the Swan Hotel and Bridge Inn don't do food on a Sunday evening, so I made a nice chicken korma curry in the boat, to be washed down with Stoke-on-Trent beer (White Star from Burslem). So what was it about the chicken that made you kill it for dinner, vs the pigeon that you saved (for another fox to have for its dinner)?
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Post by patty on Oct 15, 2018 5:53:37 GMT
My sons ex girlfriend was always rescuing pigeons (note spelling please no d)...the times we'd have to 'house' them in my flat overnight whilst the terrorist terrier would attempt to sneak up on a seek and kill mission...if they survived she'd then take them to work and attempt to get them better.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 15, 2018 6:43:39 GMT
At Autherley Junction there was a wood pigeon splahing around in the water, and we guessed he was waterlogged and eventually going to become exhausted and drown, so we reversed our boat and I got on the towpath and lifted him up with one of our gangplanks. I would have had him inside the boat beside our stove to dry out, but Finns have a phobia about Wild Animals (although they claim to 'love Nature') so he was left beside the towpath. Chugged into the darkness to Brewood. The Lion Hotel looked a bit too modern and trendy for our taste, the Swan Hotel and Bridge Inn don't do food on a Sunday evening, so I made a nice chicken korma curry in the boat, to be washed down with Stoke-on-Trent beer (White Star from Burslem). So what was it about the chicken that made you kill it for dinner, vs the pidgeon that you saved (for another fox to have for its dinner)? "Pidgeon is a surname from an archaic spelling of pigeon." - ha ha! The chicken wuz already murdered and in a packet in the Co-oP, and I knew it would go well with Korma sauce. The pigeon was still alive and I thought I'd give him the chance to recover and fly over to Northern Ireland and fly into a bakers shop and crap all over the cakes.
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Post by JohnV on Oct 15, 2018 6:51:32 GMT
At Autherley Junction there was a wood pigeon splahing around in the water, and we guessed he was waterlogged and eventually going to become exhausted and drown, so we reversed our boat and I got on the towpath and lifted him up with one of our gangplanks. I would have had him inside the boat beside our stove to dry out, but Finns have a phobia about Wild Animals (although they claim to 'love Nature') so he was left beside the towpath. Chugged into the darkness to Brewood. The Lion Hotel looked a bit too modern and trendy for our taste, the Swan Hotel and Bridge Inn don't do food on a Sunday evening, so I made a nice chicken korma curry in the boat, to be washed down with Stoke-on-Trent beer (White Star from Burslem). So what was it about the chicken that made you kill it for dinner, vs the pidgeon that you saved (for another fox to have for its dinner)? I have made a couple of not dissimilar rescues in the past ..... the answer as far as I would be concerned. I don't kill animals without a damn good reason. A pigeon or two for the pot is fine. In my book that is a valid reason to take an animals life. To leave something suffering is wrong, either rescue it and give it a chance to get better, or if it is too severely injured then kill it quickly. It means that sometimes I have problems deciding which side of the fence to sit when animal welfare is being considered. For example.... I am not very keen on foxhunting (in the form of riding to hounds) but I am against the total ban on using dogs in hunting ..... in upland areas where they hunt on foot using dogs to flush the foxes, it is about the only effective way of finding and culling the fox numbers to protect lambing ewes. "Political" movements like the anti cruel sports leagues are populated by a high percentage of people who can only be described as fanatics with a total inability to see beyond their own often blinkered view and are totally unable to contemplate the views and arguments of others
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 7:02:23 GMT
I have a similar attitude and am not a vegetarian or vegan.
I firmly believe that fanatical animal rights enthusiasts have some sort of deep psychological problems stemming from childhood. Captive animals are a bit like children they rely on benevolent management by humans. So I would suggest if a child was poorly treated by parents at an early age they may withdraw and associate more with animals as they identify with their suffering.
Conveniently forgetting that when a fox gets past the fence to where the chickens are he will kill as many as possible and not take all of them. Animal cruelty towards another animal must be a bit awkward to work around. Humans are animals which have the capacity to partially bypass instinct.
I wonder what would happen if a dog and a vegan were left isolated together with just water. Would the vegan eat the dog or would the dog eat the vegan?
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 15, 2018 8:55:47 GMT
I joined the British Union for the Abolition of Vivisection years ago (just for a couple of years) as I don't like bunny rabbits having nasty chemicals dropped in their eyes until they get dissolved and go blind, just so that some tart at the airport can choose perfumes. I also remember the saying "It can take up to 50 dumb animals to make a fur coat, but needs only one to wear it!"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 16:28:15 GMT
My old Mum always told us to be wary of 'extremes' in anything.
Moderation in all things was always her mantra.
Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 15, 2018 17:51:16 GMT
My old Mum always told us to be wary of 'extremes' in anything. Moderation in all things was always her mantra. Rog Well thank heavens she isn't running this forum then. There would be Mods everywhere.
Anyway what is an extreme? Is it a dried up river bed?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 18:22:32 GMT
Examples of "extremes" include religious "terrorists", political "megalomaniacs", "meat is murder" animal rights loons and Jim jokes
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Post by JohnV on Oct 15, 2018 18:37:05 GMT
My old Mum always told us to be wary of 'extremes' in anything. Moderation in all things was always her mantra. Rog Well thank heavens she isn't running this forum then. There would be Mods everywhere.
Anyway what is an extreme? Is it a dried up river bed?
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Post by bodger on Oct 15, 2018 18:46:39 GMT
last Friday I was walking the dogs through the neighbouring block of flats' private car park and came across a pigeon squatting (not really standing) on the roof of a car. I went right up to it and noticed it had a badly mauled face and had been blinded on one eye, and was watching me in a rather pathetic manner. I was unsure if I should put it out of its misery or leave it to nature to take care of. As I was on private ground I decided I should leave well alone, to avoid confrontation with one of the residents. Sad.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 15, 2018 18:48:24 GMT
Moderation in all things was always her mantra. How do you murder prostitutes moderately??!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 19:03:23 GMT
My sainted old Mum murdering prostitutes?
How far down that malt have you got?
Rog
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