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Post by Jim on Jan 8, 2019 12:48:28 GMT
No, most of us here don't recall your historic well considered rebuttal at the time, you have a fair right to reply to Allan's link. What was it you accused him of in your usual style "You're a snidy little twat who hides behind a computer." I treat as I find, and not being a lefty (communist) feather headed twat like yourself, I tend not to present, or see life through rose tinted glasses. The fact that you jump on Richard's bandwagon to serve your own fetish speaks volumes on yourself. If you used that sort of "arguement" in your control of the ACC committee it's no wonder the others walked.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 12:55:00 GMT
I treat as I find, and not being a lefty (communist) feather headed twat like yourself, I tend not to present, or see life through rose tinted glasses. The fact that you jump on Richard's bandwagon to serve your own fetish speaks volumes on yourself. If you used that sort of "arguement" in your control of the ACC committee it's no wonder the others walked. Nothing to do with acc, this is my view and opinion of you. You're a thick lefty twat living life through rose tinted glasses.
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Post by Allan on Jan 8, 2019 13:47:09 GMT
It is quoted there that the leak has slowed down since Christmas so is Magnetman correct and the dried out clay is filling the hole? The breech was adjacent to the aqueduct over the River Wheelock. This leak is on the nearby aqueduct over over the road where C&RT/Kier removed some of the clay and but did not replace it.
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Post by Trento on Jan 8, 2019 13:57:27 GMT
I understand and accept that this a unmoderated forum and members can post what they like, including personal insults. With this I have no problem. I'm just wondering how we can get you two in the same room face to face and sort out the problems you have.. I'd pay to see that.👍👏
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 14:03:53 GMT
I wouldn't consider selling tickets ... think you'd struggle covering your costs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 14:10:31 GMT
I understand and accept that this a unmoderated forum and members can post what they like, including personal insults. With this I have no problem. I'm just wondering how we can get you two in the same room face to face and sort out the problems you have.. I'd pay to see that.👍👏 Save your money, Richards wouldn't turn up. He never does. Even when CRT have gone out of their way to invite him to meetings, he never shows up, it used to be a standing joke. BW once made him look a complete idiot, and he never attended a meeting again. When CRT refused to disclose information to him on one occasion, he replied "I will make something up then", and that is the sort of level he operates from, hence his present position and drivel writings.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 14:10:59 GMT
I wouldn't consider selling tickets ... think you'd struggle covering your costs. Rog 😂😂😂😂
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jan 8, 2019 14:46:52 GMT
It is quoted there that the leak has slowed down since Christmas so is Magnetman correct and the dried out clay is filling the hole? Slowing of a leak of this sort, or even the appearance that it has stopped will almost certainly be down to dead leaves and twigs, small stones, creepy-crawlies, silt/mud particles, plus bits of the assorted general muck that's found in the bottom of any canal being drawn into the hole/gap in the clay puddle lining by the water that's running out through it. The real concern here is that from the moment the water was let back into that length of canal the process of saturating the earth which the entire embankment is made of will have begun again, concentrated now around the aqueduct over the Nantwich Road, . . a matter of a few dozen yards away from where the cut bust last March. If the embankment earth in the vicinity of the A530 aqueduct is allowed to become wet enough to become unstable enough to slip, there will be another breach. My personal take on this is that another breach here soon after C&RT spent 9 months and £3 million to not repair the last one properly would probably be the best thing that could happen for the future of our waterways, . . it could well help to finally bring about the end of the disastrous chapter that began in 2012 when the Government entrusted a valuable, publicly owned national asset to a bunch of incompetent, irresponsible, and dishonest clowns.
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Post by Allan on Jan 8, 2019 21:37:30 GMT
It is quoted there that the leak has slowed down since Christmas so is Magnetman correct and the dried out clay is filling the hole? Slowing of a leak of this sort, or even the appearance that it has stopped will almost certainly be down to dead leaves and twigs, small stones, creepy-crawlies, silt/mud particles, plus bits of the assorted general muck that's found in the bottom of any canal being drawn into the hole/gap in the clay puddle lining by the water that's running out through it. The real concern here is that from the moment the water was let back into that length of canal the process of saturating the earth which the entire embankment is made of will have begun again, concentrated now around the aqueduct over the Nantwich Road, . . a matter of a few dozen yards away from where the cut bust last March. If the embankment earth in the vicinity of the A530 aqueduct is allowed to become wet enough to become unstable enough to slip, there will be another breach. My personal take on this is that another breach here soon after C&RT spent 9 months and £3 million to not repair the last one properly would probably be the best thing that could happen for the future of our waterways, . . it could well help to finally bring about the end of the disastrous chapter that began in 2012 when the Government entrusted a valuable, publicly owned national asset to a bunch of incompetent, irresponsible, and dishonest clowns. Bearing in mind that C&RT's original estimate for repair was between £2m and £3m and they are now quoting £3.2m, I wonder if cost overrun has played a part in this latest fiasco. It has been suggested that puddling clay was removed in the area now leaking but not replaced prior to refilling. One of the problems this embankment has is the sandy nature of the soil. This was something C&RT sought to hide when it disclosed its 2010 principal inspection report. They have also tried to hide the fact that a local landowner reported a leak some three years ago which they did nothing about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 21:46:40 GMT
Its tempting to think another breach would be a "Good Thing" and it certainly would be quite interesting but what would be the outcome?
If it did significant damage to CRT, which seems improbable, in what way would this benefit the waterways system? Who else is going to sort it out.
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Post by metanoia on Jan 12, 2019 20:55:21 GMT
Whilst we're talking about C&RT, I notice Hurleston services are permanently closed, with the promise to build a new block closer to Wrenbury or Whitchurch. Only just noticed this as we are now (very slowly) heading in that direction. The elsan at Autherley junction was closed several years ago, with a promise to build a new one. As far as I'm aware no new elsan has ever been built. Anybody know the state of play on either issue? Rog Hi Rog and Jane - glad you made it back on board and hope to see you again this year? You will really need to cross your legs if you're heading in that direction. Last Elsan before you hit the Llangollen is either Wheelock, Nantwich or Calveley, depending on which way you're approaching - and the next is Grindley Brook, then Ellesemere and Llangollen itself . .. Defies belief, really. Desperately yours (!) Met x
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 21:02:35 GMT
Hiya Met.
Not good is it.
However C&RT claim a new elsan will be built and open for use by this summer in the Wrenbury Whitchurch area.
Based on precedent, I wouldn't put money on it happening, but we'll see.
Rog
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Post by metanoia on Jan 12, 2019 21:16:26 GMT
Grindley Brook services are good - Whitchurch Arm is private so can't see that … plans ongoing for (many) years for another Marina at Wrenbury so can't imagine them doing anything there.
No waterpoints either - such a lovely stretch of canal but you have to keep on going (or not, as the case may be)!
Happy travelling Met x
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 12, 2019 21:41:23 GMT
Water point(s) at Ellesmere. You can also fill up at Blackwater Meadow Marina (Ellesmere) (and they might have an Elsan hole there too), and there's Chirk Marina which has water + Elsan. Anyway, you can use any ordinary toilet for emptying an Elsan, but it's handy to have water in 5-litre container(s) as flushing water. You can nip into Ellesmere Tesco's, for instance, and pour it down their loos. In emergency, just dump it in a hedge (on top of a sleeping Andyberg?) and use canal water to flush it - I mean, cows and horses poo all over the place, what does it matter?
The marina at Wrenbury may provide water if you ask nicely and pay something for it (they have to buy it, after all).
(Blackwater Marina let us use 240v electricity so we could vacuum our boat - they said they hadn't been asked that before, and as we filled up with diesel there, waived any electricity charge. Nice and polite they were, thumbs up from us).
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Post by metanoia on Jan 12, 2019 21:44:00 GMT
.….. yawn …….
I must be on "ignore"....
and what kind of low life person would drag cassettes and water containers through a supermarket when there is a BW facility right there on the towpath???!!!
Staff at Blackwater have always been helpful, I must concur - but with diesel at £1.05 (domestic) I would hope so x
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