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Post by samsam on Aug 13, 2019 13:03:19 GMT
How could Middlesbrough possibly be a target? Why would our enemies wish to waste their missiles to achieve an outcome which would benefit the UK? If Middlesbrough were to be a target the rebuilding costs to repair the damage could run into double figures. I would suggest that we already have catastrophic reduction of populations but in isolated areas, the problem is that then the birth rate rises again exponentially. I don't see a world wide reduction by whatever means as dystopian, the planet will take care of itself.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 13, 2019 13:04:23 GMT
Meanwhile, no politician will be elected unless they promise continuing growth. Humans aren't as smart as they like to think they are.
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Post by peterboat on Aug 13, 2019 13:13:53 GMT
this is a very good (unfortunately to cover the subject fully it's also very long) report. It does show a rather frightening picture of a looming large scale collapse of farming in many areas I think that is one of the saddest things I have ever watched! I have been to Goa where the answer to dwindling fish catches was to double the size of the fishing fleet! I fish I caught a red snapper was a baby yet it went into the curry pot at 3 inches long, red snappers are a couple of feet long fully grown and the fisherman had never seen one that big! to quote Pte Frazer we are doomed man doomed
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 13:17:01 GMT
How could Middlesbrough possibly be a target? Why would our enemies wish to waste their missiles to achieve an outcome which would benefit the UK? Well surprising as it might seem it's port and chemical industry infrastructure would make it a prime target, though some elements of the population wouldn't be missed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 13:18:16 GMT
How could Middlesbrough possibly be a target? Why would our enemies wish to waste their missiles to achieve an outcome which would benefit the UK? If Middlesbrough were to be a target the rebuilding costs to repair the damage could run into double figures. Unkind, a few hundred maybe.
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Post by kris on Aug 13, 2019 13:28:14 GMT
this is a very good (unfortunately to cover the subject fully it's also very long) report. It does show a rather frightening picture of a looming large scale collapse of farming in many areas I've just been doing some reading on the subject according to the UN as third of the worlds population already don't have access to clean water and by 2025 the shortage of water in lots of places is going to become critical. So it's not at some distant point in the future but really soon that the shit is going to hit the fan as it where.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 14:01:32 GMT
It seems incredible doesnt it? Given the amount of the earth's surface that is covered in the stuff?
Desalination is possible but I guess the infrastucture needed will be phenomenal. And then the whole issue of pipework crossing possible enenies land.
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Post by kris on Aug 13, 2019 14:36:58 GMT
It seems incredible doesnt it? Given the amount of the earth's surface that is covered in the stuff? Desalination is possible but I guess the infrastucture needed will be phenomenal. And then the whole issue of pipework crossing possible enenies land. the power consumption involved is prohibitive.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 13, 2019 14:44:36 GMT
It seems incredible doesnt it? Given the amount of the earth's surface that is covered in the stuff? Desalination is possible but I guess the infrastucture needed will be phenomenal. And then the whole issue of pipework crossing possible enenies land. the power consumption involved is prohibitive. that's as I understand it too, even with possible technological improvements you still need a lot of power. A possible solution for drinking water but for agriculture as well ?
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Post by kris on Aug 13, 2019 14:48:03 GMT
the power consumption involved is prohibitive. that's as I understand it too, even with possible technological improvements you still need a lot of power. A possible solution for drinking water but for agriculture as well ? exactly. It's okay if your Saudi arabia and have cheap oil.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 13, 2019 15:02:21 GMT
How could Middlesbrough possibly be a target? Why would our enemies wish to waste their missiles to achieve an outcome which would benefit the UK? Well surprising as it might seem it's port and chemical industry infrastructure would make it a prime target, though some elements of the population wouldn't be missed. When I first arrived in Middlesbrough, I was excited that I was moving away from home to uni, but my thoughts quickly changed. Immediately as I stepped off the train i was greeted by hundreds of chavs in the station, making their little spit patterns on the floor, and generally trying to intimidate anyone who dared walk past them. Straight away they lunged at me like vultures, obviously seeing i was new student blood and asked ‘can i borra a fag n cani borra 10p for the bus to darlo’. I retaliated with ‘Well if your borrowing a cigarette when will you give it me back?" This seemed to confuse their under developed minds for a while before the abuse started. Then the weekend came. By this time I had realised there were very few normal people in 'boro. I waa thinking it can't be that bad. I was wrong, very wrong. I felt like i was featuring in Pirates of the Caribbean, it was all very scary, it was like they could all smell that you were new to the town, so they followed behind us all night scavenging. I feel sorry for anyone stuck in this place having to brave it all out. I even have felt sorry for the pigeons, who they seem to enjoy torturing, but if they ever stopped to think they would realise that pigeons are the same as them, hanging around town in flocks, flying at people, scavenging off people and eating scraps of food off the floor, carrying all kinds of disease and multiplying by the hundred!!
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 13, 2019 15:05:38 GMT
that's as I understand it too, even with possible technological improvements you still need a lot of power. A possible solution for drinking water but for agriculture as well ? exactly. It's okay if your Saudi arabia and have cheap oil. Old engine oil, slightly soiled, from The Fox at £4/litre.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 13, 2019 15:08:36 GMT
There seems to be a heck of a lot of possible disaster scenarios and the higher the population levels the more opportunities there seem to be for a catastrophe.
I always wished for more time to follow some of these trails of ideas and thought and since retirement I have been able to. There have been several scientific historical discoveries that It has been extremely interesting to watch unfold over the last forty years or so, from way out nut job theories to finally general acceptance by the scientific establishment.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 13, 2019 15:20:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 15:33:47 GMT
Maybe humans should consider eradicating all unnecessary animals on the planet. Take out the competition before its too late. Possibly include vegans in this deliberate extinction event, legislate to force everyone to become vegetarian.
Ban cars.
Let's get back in the caves before its too late !
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