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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 8, 2019 10:53:38 GMT
6:00 "Would you pay people more?"
"We have to win contracts based on our price."
Why couldn't he have just said "No." ??
If you are a really good worker, they may give you an 'Employee of the Month' certificate.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 8, 2019 13:59:34 GMT
opposition mp's don't count, they are not obliged to support a tory project. Such is democracy. Don't you work for the coop btw? A company operating on socialist principles. So it's because it's a tory thing. I get you now. You are correct they are rallying against torys. But that is exactly why 3 years has passed. Even if every tory voted out and no deal. The opposition will still block it. How is that not caused by remainer opposition? Your forgetting the point you originally made. My employers business beliefs and ways of working are irrelevant to the running of a country.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 14:06:25 GMT
opposition mp's don't count, they are not obliged to support a tory project. Such is democracy. Don't you work for the coop btw? A company operating on socialist principles. So it's because it's a tory thing. I get you now. You are correct they are rallying against torys. But that is exactly why 3 years has passed. Even if every tory voted out and no deal. The opposition will still block it.
How is that not caused by remainer opposition? Your forgetting the point you originally made. My employers business beliefs and ways of working are irrelevant to the running of a country. Until Boris took over (only 6 weeks ago) Cons (+the Duppers - after May had an election) could have forced through whatever they wanted. Bit rich to start blaming opposition parties.
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Post by Jim on Sept 8, 2019 14:08:43 GMT
^^^^ wot e sed.
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Post by peterboat on Sept 8, 2019 16:59:30 GMT
How many were hit by lorries turning left. I know someone it happened too, she wasn't undertaking, the wagon came past and turned left across her, mashed her under the back wheels. Lorry driver hadn't checked. Whether or not he had decent wing mirrors to minimise blind spots, I don't know. Jim I crushed a black cab with an artic once you have gone beyond a point you cant see the rear of the trailer and thats where he was all caught on CCTV and the cab driver was charged with driving without due care and consideration
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Post by Jim on Sept 8, 2019 17:11:49 GMT
How many were hit by lorries turning left. I know someone it happened too, she wasn't undertaking, the wagon came past and turned left across her, mashed her under the back wheels. Lorry driver hadn't checked. Whether or not he had decent wing mirrors to minimise blind spots, I don't know. Jim I crushed a black cab with an artic once you have gone beyond a point you cant see the rear of the trailer and thats where he was all caught on CCTV and the cab driver was charged with driving without due care and consideration Well, that's fair enough if the cab driver was undertaking you. I suspect it might have been a different matter if there was a dedicated bus/taxi/bike lane on the inside.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 17:26:44 GMT
So it's because it's a tory thing. I get you now. You are correct they are rallying against torys. But that is exactly why 3 years has passed. Even if every tory voted out and no deal. The opposition will still block it.
How is that not caused by remainer opposition? Your forgetting the point you originally made. My employers business beliefs and ways of working are irrelevant to the running of a country. Until Boris took over (only 6 weeks ago) Cons (+the Duppers - after May had an election) could have forced through whatever they wanted. Bit rich to start blaming opposition parties. Utter piffle. May decided on a GE to increase her majority ... so they could do as they wished. It blew up in her face as her majority was decimated ... all plans goosed. That's where the rot set in ... a good majority would have seen us out by now on May's deal despite parliament's constant blocking. The whole mess was engineered by Cameron and May. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 17:43:04 GMT
Until Boris took over (only 6 weeks ago) Cons (+the Duppers - after May had an election) could have forced through whatever they wanted. Bit rich to start blaming opposition parties. The whole mess was engineered by Cameron and May. Rog And the electorate!
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 8, 2019 18:19:18 GMT
Treeza's been naughty:
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Post by peterboat on Sept 8, 2019 18:21:40 GMT
Until Boris took over (only 6 weeks ago) Cons (+the Duppers - after May had an election) could have forced through whatever they wanted. Bit rich to start blaming opposition parties. Utter piffle. May decided on a GE to increase her majority ... so they could do as they wished. It blew up in her face as her majority was decimated ... all plans goosed. That's where the rot set in ... a good majority would have seen us out by now on May's deal despite parliament's constant blocking. The whole mess was engineered by Cameron and May. Rog WhRog is she was a remainer who deliberately tried to get a hung parliament and she succeeded and what a mess she has made of things, one day though she might regret her actions when someone decides to do something about it!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 18:24:06 GMT
The whole mess was engineered by Cameron and May. Rog And the electorate! I don't recall petitions and protests demanding a referendum ... my memory suggests it was entirely driven and initiated by Cameron with the idea of unifying his party and at the same time neutralising UKIP. Maybe my memory's playing tricks. The electorate can only respond to a referendum ... they cannot initiate one. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 18:31:30 GMT
I don't recall petitions and protests demanding a referendum ... my memory suggests it was entirely driven and initiated by Cameron with the idea of unifying his party and at the same time neutralising UKIP. Maybe my memory's playing tricks. The electorate can only respond to a referendum ... they cannot initiate one. Rog But they can vote in a general election and pretty much reject the 'No deal is better than a bad deal' mantra...
Anyway I recon Boris will eat his own sword and send the request for an extension, then vote for the EU to reject it, thus trying again to scupper the will of Parliament.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 8, 2019 18:38:33 GMT
I don't recall petitions and protests demanding a referendum ... my memory suggests it was entirely driven and initiated by Cameron with the idea of unifying his party and at the same time neutralising UKIP. Maybe my memory's playing tricks. No, that's about the size of it, and that's why TPTB are constantly prevaricating about Brexit rather than coming out with the truth, i.e. that they have no intention whatsoever of implementing it, because as soon as they admit that then the Brexit Party are slated to win the next General Election.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 8, 2019 18:42:27 GMT
Where are they now?
"It lost half its MPs including interim leader Heidi Allen, just 106 days after its launch. The group has been dogged by in-fighting and arguments over tactics since it was set up back in March."
"On June 13, spokesperson Chuka Umunna defected AGAIN when he announced he'd be moving to the Lib Dems."
"Change UK is now being forced to change its name AGAIN after it was threatened with legal action. They will now be known as "The Independent Group for Change" after Change.org said it would sue their MPs individually if they didn't budge."
I see. A 'different kind of Politics' indeed!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 18:44:55 GMT
I don't recall petitions and protests demanding a referendum ... my memory suggests it was entirely driven and initiated by Cameron with the idea of unifying his party and at the same time neutralising UKIP. Maybe my memory's playing tricks. The electorate can only respond to a referendum ... they cannot initiate one. Rog But they can vote in a general election and pretty much reject the 'No deal is better than a bad deal' mantra...
Anyway I recon Boris will eat his own sword and send the request for an extension, then vote for the EU to reject it, thus trying again to scupper the will of Parliament.
The will of parliament ! Who gives a toss about the will of parliament when they ignore the will of the people they are supposed to serve. Rog
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