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Post by ianali on Oct 24, 2019 13:33:13 GMT
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Post by NigelMoore on Oct 24, 2019 15:29:23 GMT
One innocent comment from the facebook site: “ Cars get crushed but surely they don't do that to the boats.” Presumably the relevant BW posters are no longer in evidence -
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 15:50:45 GMT
One innocent comment from the facebook site: “ Cars get crushed but surely they don't do that to the boats.” Presumably the relevant BW posters are no longer in evidence - I remember that boat. Glad you put a picture up. It was actually quite a nice little boat. A riveted tug I think it was from the Harefield gravel works originally. A historic boat. Ended up owned by Martin "screamin" Leaman below Black Jack's lock. Probably unlicensed but not a good boat to use for the advert as technically that boat had history. Canal and River Trust - Keeping something and something else and history connected ? What happened to this dream ?
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2019 15:58:41 GMT
It's certainly not environmentally friendly to chuck a boat in a crusher and squish it. Come on, Greta Thunberg, get yerself round to CRT's offices and give them a piece of your mind!
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Post by metanoia on Oct 24, 2019 17:51:00 GMT
What is truth??? As Trump frequently demonstrates, one persons truth is another persons lie. Been like this for as long as I can remember, the only difference is that before we got our news from newspapers where mostly they would do some fact checking before publication, but now a lot comes directly via social media from one of the parties involved who are free to spin (lie?) as they wish. who can you trust?? My mum 😀 You're a lucky boy! met x
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Post by thebfg on Oct 25, 2019 6:56:44 GMT
One innocent comment from the facebook site: “ Cars get crushed but surely they don't do that to the boats.” Presumably the relevant BW posters are no longer in evidence - But with cars at least if you insure, mot and tax it they let you have it back without a fuss.
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Post by NigelMoore on Oct 25, 2019 10:15:49 GMT
But with cars at least if you insure, mot and tax it they let you have it back without a fuss. Do they let you have it back only after removal and storage costs are paid? Certainly that applies to cars impounded by Councils for inappropriate parking or apparent abandonment. CaRT are obliged to return seized boats upon payment only of removal and storage costs, although as we know, until recently they refused to do so unless all alleged arrears of licensing were paid also. The other aggravating factor with CaRT is that the usual minimum cost of removal via their preferred contractors is around £5,000, which immediately sets up a financial barrier for most boats so seized. In some case the costs are even higher – Geoff Mayers was faced with approximately £12,000 as the alleged cost of removal. I am not sure what happened with the historic boat 'Pearl' thereafter, though it was advertsied for only a couple of thousand following repeated sinking under the 'care' of their contractors. Needless to say, very few boaters can stump up for such punitive costs, and in the one period I checked out from FoI responses a few years back, only about 3 or 4 boats had been retrieved out of the hundreds that had been removed under s.8. As some posters on the facebook site observed, boats unretrieved are usually sold off - but according to CaRT, only where their resale value exceeds some £3,000. In a few cases they could probably recoup their costs with such sales, but with no incentive to realise more than they have spent, there will be little if anything left over for the owner. In fact, the owner will frequently be left with an outstanding sum still owed by them to CaRT! In the vast majority of cases, once CaRT take your boat, you have lost it - as their posters gleefully proclaimed.
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Post by NigelMoore on Oct 25, 2019 11:11:39 GMT
Canal and River Trust - Keeping something and something else and history connected ? What happened to this dream ? “Keeping People, Nature and History Connected” canalrivertrust.org.uk/media/library/1042.pdf“ The Canal & River Trust marks a new start for this extraordinary network and a radical, modern approach to the care of our national heritage. It is a new model for delivering public services and offers a chance for communities to have a real say in the running of their local waterway.
The people who use and enjoy the network will be integral to helping ensure that this wonderful national asset is looked after and, in turn, its potential is unlocked as a haven for people and wildlife, as a catalyst for regeneration and commerce and to help mitigate against climate change.
250 years since the waterway network was first built, the Canal & River Trust will ensure our precious waterways are safeguarded for the next 250 years.” Nothing happened to the dream; it is still a dream - but whose?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 25, 2019 11:45:57 GMT
My view is that C&RT's assessment of the target audience for the dishonesty and hypocrisy that oozes from those webpages has to go down as one of the very few successes in their short and calamitous history. The only people with any real reason to feel ashamed of what is in truth a list of boat thefts hidden behind a thin layer of pseudo-legal claptrap are the directing minds within C&RT, the C&RT employees who have taken part because they were - "only following orders", and the directors and employees of C&RT's much favoured contractors, Criminal Boat Services.
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Post by thebfg on Oct 25, 2019 11:47:13 GMT
But with cars at least if you insure, mot and tax it they let you have it back without a fuss. Do they let you have it back only after removal and storage costs are paid? Certainly that applies to cars impounded by Councils for inappropriate parking or apparent abandonment. CaRT are obliged to return seized boats upon payment only of removal and storage costs, although as we know, until recently they refused to do so unless all alleged arrears of licensing were paid also. The other aggravating factor with CaRT is that the usual minimum cost of removal via their preferred contractors is around £5,000, which immediately sets up a financial barrier for most boats so seized. In some case the costs are even higher – Geoff Mayers was faced with approximately £12,000 as the alleged cost of removal. I am not sure what happened with the historic boat 'Pearl' thereafter, though it was advertsied for only a couple of thousand following repeated sinking under the 'care' of their contractors. Needless to say, very few boaters can stump up for such punitive costs, and in the one period I checked out from FoI responses a few years back, only about 3 or 4 boats had been retrieved out of the hundreds that had been removed under s.8. As some posters on the facebook site observed, boats unretrieved are usually sold off - but according to CaRT, only where their resale value exceeds some £3,000. In a few cases they could probably recoup their costs with such sales, but with no incentive to realise more than they have spent, there will be little if anything left over for the owner. In fact, the owner will frequently be left with an outstanding sum still owed by them to CaRT! In the vast majority of cases, once CaRT take your boat, you have lost it - as their posters gleefully proclaimed. yes removal and storage fees will be incurred. Unlike CRT, they don't use their mates company that can and will charge whatever fee they like, or is that assumption incorrect.
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Post by NigelMoore on Oct 25, 2019 11:59:57 GMT
yes removal and storage fees will be incurred. Unlike CRT, they don't use their mates company that can and will charge whatever fee they like, or is that assumption incorrect. I had 3 cars in succession over a period of a few months impounded by Hounslow Council, following a neighbour’s campaign to prevent me parking on my own land by shoving them out into the street, where they blocked pedestrians and cars. As I recall, the storage charges were reasonable, in fact cheaper than having to pay car parking charges elsewhere! Not that I had to pay anything to get them back, once I had managed to get cctv footage of the moron responsible.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 15:31:46 GMT
Canal and River Trust - Keeping something and something else and history connected ? What happened to this dream ? “Keeping People, Nature and History Connected” I should have known that considering its hanging in my window !! Tee shirt given to me by another boater who found it in a bin How apt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 5:35:08 GMT
“Keeping People, Nature and History Connected” I should have known that considering its hanging in my window !! Tee shirt given to me by another boater who found it in a bin How apt. Those hinges need oiling and the window frames are crying out for some TLC
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 6:31:54 GMT
I should have known that considering its hanging in my window !! Tee shirt given to me by another boater who found it in a bin How apt. Those hinges need oiling and the window frames are crying out for some TLC I did the hinges quite recently with some veg oil actually. They are fine. Not my favourite type of hinge they are a bit prone to weld breaking when they get tight so I do keep an eye on them. These ones don't have the grease nipples. As for the wood it's quality stuff - does not particularly need treating. It's the "distressed" look Maan
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Post by Jim on Oct 26, 2019 13:51:50 GMT
Those hinges need oiling and the window frames are crying out for some TLC I did the hinges quite recently with some veg oil actually. They are fine. Not my favourite type of hinge they are a bit prone to weld breaking when they get tight so I do keep an eye on them. These ones don't have the grease nipples. As for the wood it's quality stuff - does not particularly need treating. It's the "distressed" look Maan Shabby Chic or just shabby?
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