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Mar 23, 2020 10:32:57 GMT
Post by JohnV on Mar 23, 2020 10:32:57 GMT
look at the base of the lamp (bulb) does it have one central solder blob or two the same as a houshold lamp ?
if it has two blobs, there must be two terminals next to one another on the lampholder
if there is only one central blob then the other connection is the outer sleeve of the lampholder
(the bit that the side prongs clip into as you twist it to lock)
there should be a terminal there somewhere
oris that where the black wire is attached ?
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Mar 23, 2020 10:34:35 GMT
Post by duncan on Mar 23, 2020 10:34:35 GMT
there should be positions for 2 wires on the lampholder. The bulb itself has 2 terminals if you examine it you will see that they connect to corresponding terminals on the fitting, the black wire should be connected to one of them. (call this one Black one) The unused terminal should connect to the switch, it doesn't matter which wire on the switch, (it doesn't care) I would use the black wire (2) the Blackwire (1) should go to the black negative supply and the white to the positive red supply I don't think I can make it clearer than that ..... If it stilldoesn't make sense then try posting a picture of the fitting and of the switch Thanks but there is only one black wire going into the the bulb holder which has a bayonet fitting. Being a numpty I have no idea how to post pictures... Is there any type of terminal on the end of either the white or black wires connected to the switch? If there is then I would expect that there would be somewhere on the lamp holder to fix that terminal. Usually on lamp holders one wire comes in contact with the end of the bulb, the other to the body of the bulb. Then your positive and negatives from the boat would attach to the left over wire on the switch, and the left over wire on the lamp holder.
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Mar 23, 2020 10:37:24 GMT
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Post by jubjub on Mar 23, 2020 10:37:24 GMT
look at the base of the lamp (bulb) does it have one central solder blob or two the same as a houshold lamp ? if it has two blobs, there must be two terminals next to one another on the lampholder if there is only one central blob then the other connection is the outer sleeve of the lampholder (the bit that the side prongs clip into as you twist it to lock) there should be a terminal there somewhere The black wire going into the bulb holder has a soldered 'blob' The holder is held in place with a screw to the brass backplate. There are no other connections other than described. Not to worry it's not the end of the world if I don't get it fitted. Thanks
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Mar 23, 2020 10:40:09 GMT
Post by JohnV on Mar 23, 2020 10:40:09 GMT
it sounds as if it is a very basic (as foxy would claim Chinese) lampholder in which case it could very well be that the brass backplate is the other terminal (eugh)
does the bulb(lamp)itselfjust have one "blob" ?
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Mar 23, 2020 10:47:08 GMT
Post by lollygagger on Mar 23, 2020 10:47:08 GMT
JubJub, if you spent the time you've spent faffing and chatting with this finding out how to post pictures (which is ridiculously easy) you'd have finished this yesterday.
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Mar 23, 2020 10:50:00 GMT
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Post by jubjub on Mar 23, 2020 10:50:00 GMT
it sounds as if it is a very basic (as foxy would claim Chinese) lampholder in which case it could very well be that the brass backplate is the other terminal (eugh) does the bulb(lamp)itselfjust have one "blob" ? As I said,made in Taiwan, the bulb is a normal bayonet type with two solder connections on the base. The only thing I can think of is that I connect a wire to the screw that holds the bulb holder in place.... Here goes nothing.....ððĪŠ
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Mar 23, 2020 10:51:25 GMT
Post by JohnV on Mar 23, 2020 10:51:25 GMT
if it has two soldered connections on the base of the bulb there must be two terminalson the holder
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Mar 23, 2020 10:54:11 GMT
Post by JohnV on Mar 23, 2020 10:54:11 GMT
the holder for that type of bulb has two sprung rods that make connection to those blobs on the lamp the body of the holder does not connect to anything
it must have two terminals ......providing it is the correct bulb for that lampholder (or the correct lampholder for that bulb if you follow)
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Mar 23, 2020 11:16:55 GMT
Post by JohnV on Mar 23, 2020 11:16:55 GMT
I have just been back to re read the OP to see if there is something we are missing
You say there are two wires attached to the switch ..... that reads as if they only go to the switch and the other ends are just floating
Is this right ?
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Mar 23, 2020 11:23:26 GMT
Post by bodger on Mar 23, 2020 11:23:26 GMT
One of the founding principles here was that technical answers should be answered as clearly and simply as possible and if the answer was there already and it was clear enough for practical purposes you left it alone. I need to catch up - please let me know where the founding fathers of this forum have set their principles in stone.
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Mar 23, 2020 11:28:53 GMT
Post by JohnV on Mar 23, 2020 11:28:53 GMT
One of the founding principles here was that technical answers should be answered as clearly and simply as possible and if the answer was there already and it was clear enough for practical purposes you left it alone. I need to catch up - please let me know where the founding fathers of this forum have set their principles in stone. Twat !!! it was a gentleman's agreement ..... not that you would understand
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 23, 2020 13:12:23 GMT
it sounds as if it is a very basic (as foxy would claim Chinese) lampholder in which case it could very well be that the brass backplate is the other terminal (eugh) does the bulb(lamp)itselfjust have one "blob" ? As I said,made in Taiwan, the bulb is a normal bayonet type with two solder connections on the base. The only thing I can think of is that I connect a wire to the screw that holds the bulb holder in place.... Here goes nothing.....ððĪŠ If you provided a photograph of the whole thing, answering would be easy. Without a photo we are just guessing.
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Mar 23, 2020 13:21:12 GMT
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Post by jubjub on Mar 23, 2020 13:21:12 GMT
JubJub, if you spent the time you've spent faffing and chatting with this finding out how to post pictures (which is ridiculously easy) you'd have finished this yesterday. We are not all technically minded.I would class myself as virtually a luddite having only this year bought smartphone but thanks for you positive insight.
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Post by jubjub on Mar 23, 2020 13:48:57 GMT
Hi and thanks to all who have tried to help. At the end of the day it is just a light and, having reluctantly decided to go home today, it will have to wait. I would rather self isolated up in the Brecon hills when martial law comes in. As it looks like I won't be posting anything else for a while it just leaves me to say take care and look after yourselves & I trust you all find suitable things to occupy you. Perhaps I will spend my time learning how to wire lights and load photos!! TTFN
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Mar 23, 2020 14:56:34 GMT
Post by bodger on Mar 23, 2020 14:56:34 GMT
I need to catch up - please let me know where the founding fathers of this forum have set their principles in stone. Twat !!! it was a gentleman's agreement ..... not that you would understand you're winging it mate.
............. you're not a twat. twats are useful.
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