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Post by gigoguy on Oct 5, 2017 14:50:05 GMT
Just a couple of questions Tony, was the shipyard owner involved in the initial alleged theft of the ship, or did he only become involved once the alleged theft had occurred. Am I right in thinking that when you initially took the matter to the police in the area of the shipyard, that police force were more amenable to investigate but had to pass the matter over to Merseyside police where the alleged theft occurred. The reason for asking is if the shipyard owner was NOT involved in the original removal of the ship, but has bought it, knowing or believing it to be stolen, then an offence of handling stolen goods may have occurred. This offence would have occurred in Sharpness and therefore the police local to the shipyard would investigate and not Merseyside. The fact that you have evidence that the shipyard owner knows the ships real owner, and coupled with the fact the ship was sold at a ludicrously low price, way below market value all point towards him knowing or believing the ship to be stolen. His only defence is that he thought it was all legitimate and CRT had the right to sell, but this is totally undermined if the value he bought it for is so low. No legitimate owner sells something worth 100k for 12k. Yes, Phil, Steve Beacham of Sharpness Shipyard wasn't involved until "Planet" arrived at Sharpness and was handed over into his care by C&RT's boat/ship snatching contractors, Commercial Boat Services of Chester. You are also correct in that Gloucestershire Police were prepared to investigate the matter but were prevented from so doing due to the fraudulent/illegal seizure having occurred in the Merseyside Force's jurisdiction. Beacham was and is fully aware of the truth as to the fact that Alan Roberts is the rightful owner of the ship, and that title did not, and could not, pass to C&RT by way of their unlawful actions in Liverpool, implemented as they were under a knowingly and intentionally misrepresented termination clause in an expired berthing agreement. His loose tongue and inherent stupidity have provided some very useful ammunition, in particular in a taped telephone conversation from Saturday 22 April this year in which he states quite unambiguously that the owner has some bills to pay before he can have his ship back. It would appear from what was said in the BBC Radio Merseyside broadcast that Mr Beacham has completely forgotten about making this admission on record, despite having been reminded of it in the e-mail, which I sent him on the morning of the following day, ahead of the arrival of the owner, Alan Roberts, along with Gloucestershire Police! ______________________________________________ Tony Dunkley <tony@canalrivertransport.com>
23 April 2017
to Steve, force.controlr., Alan
Dear Mr Beacham,
Further to our telephone conversation of yesterday evening following up your earlier e-mail, I write to confirm that the owner of the above named vessel, Mr Alan Roberts of 1 Day Street, Liverpool, L13 2DS, will be visiting your premises at Sharpness today, Sunday 23 April 2017, in order to repossess and inspect the ship.
It would seem, from our recording of yesterday's telephone conversation, that you have documentation and/or paperwork from C&RT, the organization responsible for the unlawful removal of "Planet" from the river Mersey/Liverpool, instructing and authorizing the subsequent unlawful impoundment in your yard at Sharpness. Please arrange for copies of this documentation/paperwork to be available for the ship's owner, Mr Roberts, later today.
You also made reference to an unspecified number of Invoices ('bills' was the actual word you used) which you stated would have to be settled - quote -" before the owner can have his ship back". Please ensure that copies of these invoices, or bills, are also available to be given to Mr Roberts.
In light of your generally unhelpful and threatening manner in the course of yesterdays telephone conversation we are requesting that Gloucestershire Police attend today's boarding and repossession
Yours faithfully, A.K.Dunkley (Shipowner's Representative)Hi Tony Have there been any developments since the letter?
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Post by alex on Nov 17, 2017 14:21:46 GMT
Further discussion on radio Merseyside today 1.50 pm roger phillips . Sorry heard little except blah is decent bloke , think that is about the buyer ,maybe they getting their info from cart and also the proviso the buyer could not scrap planner but blah blah if after it sold on once or twice then it could be scrapped by new owners and cart has no control
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Post by bargemast on Nov 18, 2017 10:13:20 GMT
When is this dirty smelly case finally going to be judged ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 15:27:38 GMT
Good news! Tony will probably throw a party 😂 Link
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Post by bargemast on Dec 6, 2017 15:38:37 GMT
Good news! Tony will probably throw a party 😂 LinkThat 's indeed good news, but before I clicked on the link I thougjht and had hoped that this good news was about the "Planet". Hope that good news about that terribly smelly story may come finally too. Peter.
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Post by Andyberg on Dec 6, 2017 15:55:41 GMT
Happier days for Planet & Liverpool Docks!
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Post by Allan on Dec 6, 2017 22:47:22 GMT
Chantelle Seaborn's departure is certainly very rapid.
It remains to be seen if it is due to -
1. C&RT trying to distance itself from the Planet affair.
2. C&RT attempting to shed staff by amalgamating regions (the noises coming from within C&RT suggest that Seaborn's empire will merged with another region - North Wales & Borders)
3. Negative publicity surrounding plans to restore thee Northern Reaches of the Lancaster Canal.
Perhaps others might wish to add to this list ...
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Post by erivers on Dec 6, 2017 23:51:28 GMT
Chantelle Seaborn's departure is certainly very rapid. It remains to be seen if it is due to - 1. C&RT trying to distance itself from the Planet affair. 2. C&RT attempting to shed staff by amalgamating regions (the noises coming from within C&RT suggest that Seaborn's empire will merged with another region - North Wales & Borders) 3. Negative publicity surrounding plans to restore thee Northern Reaches of the Lancaster Canal. Perhaps others might wish to add to this list ... Perhaps it suddenly became as obvious to her as it already is to others that there may be a serious conflict of interest involved with her part in the 'Planet' saga and her recent appointment as a company director of Liverpool Waterfront Business Partnership CIC. About MRS CHANTELLE MARIA SEABORN Mrs Chantelle Maria Seaborn holds 1 appointment at 1 active company, has resigned from 5 companies and held 1 appointments at 1 dissolved companies. CHANTELLE began their first appointment at the age of 37. Their longest current appointment spans 0 years, 6 months and 27 days at LIVERPOOL WATERFRONT BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP CIC LIVERPOOL WATERFRONT BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP CIC Company number 08359989
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 0:30:10 GMT
Chantelle Seaborn's departure is certainly very rapid. It remains to be seen if it is due to - 1. C&RT trying to distance itself from the Planet affair. 2. C&RT attempting to shed staff by amalgamating regions (the noises coming from within C&RT suggest that Seaborn's empire will merged with another region - North Wales & Borders) 3. Negative publicity surrounding plans to restore thee Northern Reaches of the Lancaster Canal. Perhaps others might wish to add to this list ... Perhaps it suddenly became as obvious to her as it already is to others that there may be a serious conflict of interest involved with her part in the 'Planet' saga and her recent appointment as a company director of Liverpool Waterfront Business Partnership CIC. About MRS CHANTELLE MARIA SEABORN Mrs Chantelle Maria Seaborn holds 1 appointment at 1 active company, has resigned from 5 companies and held 1 appointments at 1 dissolved companies. CHANTELLE began their first appointment at the age of 37. Their longest current appointment spans 0 years, 6 months and 27 days at LIVERPOOL WATERFRONT BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP CIC LIVERPOOL WATERFRONT BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP CIC Company number 08359989 Julie Sharman was also a director until recently. I suppose the increased workload at the Trust recently required her to leave her post. Canal and River Trust do have a sticky finger in this pie. This announcement does have a rather nasty taste to it. I can smell the stench with the lightship from here.
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Post by kris on Dec 7, 2017 15:55:46 GMT
Good news! Tony will probably throw a party 😂 Linkirs good news it's been on the cards for a while. She's blotted her copy book more than once.
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Post by Allan on Dec 7, 2017 18:01:21 GMT
Chantelle Seaborn's departure is certainly very rapid. It remains to be seen if it is due to - 1. C&RT trying to distance itself from the Planet affair. 2. C&RT attempting to shed staff by amalgamating regions (the noises coming from within C&RT suggest that Seaborn's empire will merged with another region - North Wales & Borders)3. Negative publicity surrounding plans to restore thee Northern Reaches of the Lancaster Canal. Perhaps others might wish to add to this list ... Well that did not take long. C&RT will be shedding staff by amalgamating Regions. The number of Regions will drop from 10 to 6. They started a 60 day redundancy consultation yesterday
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 19:48:14 GMT
Will Dick Parry be visited by the ghosts of Christmas past? No, too many stoppages.
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Post by kris on Dec 8, 2017 11:36:41 GMT
Now the reality is beginning to bite for Crt, unfortunately it will make them even worse in the shorterm as they all run around line chickens with their heads cut off. Each trying to point the finger at some one else not themselves. As for Chantelle seaborn her move is typical of her kind of managment leech. They change rolls about every five years, so they don't have to live with the long term consequences of their actions. Mr parry if your reading this, aren't you over due a change of job?
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Post by peterboat on Dec 8, 2017 13:09:52 GMT
Chantelle Seaborn's departure is certainly very rapid. It remains to be seen if it is due to - 1. C&RT trying to distance itself from the Planet affair. 2. C&RT attempting to shed staff by amalgamating regions (the noises coming from within C&RT suggest that Seaborn's empire will merged with another region - North Wales & Borders)3. Negative publicity surrounding plans to restore thee Northern Reaches of the Lancaster Canal. Perhaps others might wish to add to this list ... Well that did not take long. C&RT will be shedding staff by amalgamating Regions. The number of Regions will drop from 10 to 6. They started a 60 day redundancy consultation yesterday Funny you should post this I was talking to a CRT chap this morning and he confirmed the reduction to six areas as well upper and middle management losses he said perfik
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 13:17:19 GMT
Well that did not take long. C&RT will be shedding staff by amalgamating Regions. The number of Regions will drop from 10 to 6. They started a 60 day redundancy consultation yesterday Funny you should post this I was talking to a CRT chap this morning and he confirmed the reduction to six areas as well upper and middle management losses he said perfik Parry stated in 2014 that these were his aims. I don't know why it was put on the back burner for so long. Perhaps certain trustees were a sticking point, and having now left, the options for Parry to move have resurfaced. 😉
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