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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 18:57:08 GMT
The Simploo has a 12v fan which runs 24/7 ... have you connected that ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 18:59:23 GMT
Apologies if I've missed something, having not trawled through the earlier s**t but why do you feel the need to dispense with something that seems so VERY much in demand, @tonyc ? I'd stick with what I had for a while (you've trialled it for a mere matter of days?) and worry about it later ..... Good luck x Well this was a bit foolhardy of me, but after watching a lot of youtube videos made by users of 'dry' toilets, and having used a cassette toilet on a caravan holiday, I decided that the dry (or separating) toilet was the one for me, so I got one, called a Simploo. I brought it with me to the boat and have used it since day 1, and I haven't used the cassette toilet at all, to be honest. Urine goes into a removable 6 litre bottle within the toilet body, and it can (apparently legally and safely) be poured into a hedge, and the solids container has a biodegradable bag which has lots of sawdust (or coco coir) mixed in, and can (legitimately) be pulled out every 15 days or so, double bagged and disposed of in a normal CRT bin. So I never need to visit an elsan point- only the normal rubbish disposal areas. So there you are- long story, but thats why I dont want the Thetford! The dry toilets mean you never have to worry about finding an elsan point every x days, which on the Ouse and Nene is a bonus I'd say its one of your better decisions...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 18:59:53 GMT
One other thing: if at all possible cut the pipe with a pipe cutter. If there is not enough room, next-best is to use an angle grinder with a thin cutting disc. Final resort - mini-hacksaw with a fresh blade and dress the end using a flat and rats-tail file. I forgot to mention- its a plastic pipe. Does that still need a pipe cutter? I dont mind getting one if it makes sure there's no leaks, its the sort of thing that you just know is going to come into use again
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 19:00:42 GMT
Best advice...keep the Thetford for a while longer. Chuck something else from your storage space first.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 19:05:16 GMT
The Simploo has a 12v fan which runs 24/7 ... have you connected that ? Rog Not yet Rog, the 12v wires are still going into the Thetford, havent touched any of that. I'm told the fan is helpful but not absolutely essential, because the smell is minimal due to the coco coir covering everything in the solids container anyway. But I dont know if thats true, because I cant smell worth a damn. I can only hope that my gongoozling visitors were not subjected to some awful olfactory torture from my toilet during their brief visit. Oh, the embarrassment... My toes would curl up in shame, except I dont think I have any shame left. And not a great of toes either, come to that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 19:06:19 GMT
One other thing: if at all possible cut the pipe with a pipe cutter. If there is not enough room, next-best is to use an angle grinder with a thin cutting disc. Final resort - mini-hacksaw with a fresh blade and dress the end using a flat and rats-tail file. I forgot to mention- its a plastic pipe. Does that still need a pipe cutter? I dont mind getting one if it makes sure there's no leaks, its the sort of thing that you just know is going to come into use again Ideally, yes. Pipe cutters are cheap so buy one and use it wherever possible. They are also very easy to use. Sometimes there just isn't enough room though. The problem with the hacksaw method is that you can't get a straight cut so you would ideally file it afterwards. Messy and seldom results in a perfectly square end, which will magically happen every time with a pipe cutter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 19:06:36 GMT
Thanks Brummieboy, I'll try this out when I get to the GU. At the moment I'm finding I have to do 6-10 mile cruises in between public moorings, so there is a bit of pressure to press on just in case the one you wanted is already taken, as happened yesterday. Then I've got to take days out for work, so I' ve decided to take some time out and do this when I get to GU. At the moment I don't know the first thing about the water system of where the bits are, other than there is a hot water tank under the bed. There is no evidence of a water pump under the sink or in the cabinets so I'm not sure where the hell it is Have a look for the water pump under the step at the front doors, if not there, turn a tap on and listen out for it humming away. Yep, sounds like it is under the front steps- the sneaky buggers
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 19:10:49 GMT
Best advice...keep the Thetford for a while longer. Chuck something else from your storage space first. No, I've made my decision Chagall. Space is just too tight to hang onto the toilet, and I'm getting fed up with two of them in the little bathroom. Also, I like the dry toilet tbh, its easy to use and once its properly installed with a fan, I wont asphyxiate any visitors with antisocial smells...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 19:13:17 GMT
I forgot to mention- its a plastic pipe. Does that still need a pipe cutter? I dont mind getting one if it makes sure there's no leaks, its the sort of thing that you just know is going to come into use again Ideally, yes. Pipe cutters are cheap so buy one and use it wherever possible. They are also very easy to use. Sometimes there just isn't enough room though. The problem with the hacksaw method is that you can't get a straight cut so you would ideally file it afterwards. Messy and seldom results in a perfectly square end, which will magically happen every time with a pipe cutter. Who am I trying to kid? I've never cut a straight line with a hacksaw in my life, and this is one cut that has to be done properly. Pipe cutters it is
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 19:34:30 GMT
If it's plastic pipe it'll be grey or white probably or maybe brown. Acorn fittings (brown) and Hep2o (grey) were both popular on boats. Speedfit more common these days I would guess (white). Sharp Stanley knife and a piece of wood is good for that stuff. Ideally you want the proper PEX pipe cutter. If you don't get a clean cut it will mess with the o-ring in the stop end fitting and quite likely leak. Cross linked polyethylene innit. I agree with chagall you don't want to be dumping that loo just yet And as Ricco said an offer of a second hand one of those is not to be sniffed at. Someone gives you a horse you don't look at the teeth, or something like that. It might seem crap at the moment but a very handy unit. The blue button just opens a solenoid valve for the water "flush" and admits water from the domestic service pump. I had a similar one on the barge before I got the mooring which has pumpout included. Seemed a bit silly not to put pumpout in for that situation but for a cruising boat the cassette option is actually a very valid and sensible solution to the age old problem of used food handling.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 19:54:51 GMT
The Simploo costs about £350 ... I suspect he's kind of committed already.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 19:57:59 GMT
If it's plastic pipe it'll be grey or white probably or maybe brown. Acorn fittings (brown) and Hep2o (grey) were both popular on boats. Speedfit more common these days I would guess (white). Sharp Stanley knife and a piece of wood is good for that stuff. Ideally you want the proper PEX pipe cutter. If you don't get a clean cut it will mess with the o-ring in the stop end fitting and quite likely leak. Cross linked polyethylene innit. I agree with chagall you don't want to be dumping that loo just yet And as Ricco said an offer of a second hand one of those is not to be sniffed at. Someone gives you a horse you don't look at the teeth, or something like that. It might seem crap at the moment but a very handy unit. The blue button just opens a solenoid valve for the water "flush" and admits water from the domestic service pump. I had a similar one on the barge before I got the mooring which has pumpout included. Seemed a bit silly not to put pumpout in for that situation but for a cruising boat the cassette option is actually a very valid and sensible solution to the age old problem of used food handling. Sorry Mr M, however financially sound a strategy, the Thetford is not the loo for me. I first moved aboard I think on 22nd August, and have used the dry toilet since then, so by now I'm confident I'll be ok with it longer term. There's just not enough space around here to store spare toilets until I can ebay them- and as I said, I have had advice from the people here that has been genuinely helpful and saved me much trouble. If people have made the effort to help and advise me, the very least I can do is repay their kindness by offering something that I dont need but that might help them- and that clearly has some value due to being so scarce these days. The advice I've had from you folks has been worth far more than a measly £80 that a used item might fetch. This is my chance to give something back, and travel plans permitting, hopefully I can do that. Its the very least I could do, and if I'm being honest, its less than I should do
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 20:01:33 GMT
If you want to leave it at Blackthorn Marina I will take it off your hands. I need a spare cassette Hi Loddon, Chagall's had to leave it, so Peterboat now has first refusal on the toilet and one of the cassettes, as his post was the next. What I will do though, as you kindly offered me a chimney collar thing, is to drop off the spare cassette at Blackthorn for you. Not sure what day I'll be going past, but whenever it is, I'll be in a hurry! I need to clear out before my visitor license expires. I have to stop to work on Thursday, so I'll probably make Oundle on Friday, then I need to park the boat and take a day or so to go back and get my car, move it on ahead of me, and come back to the boat. I think Blackthorn might be Sunday or Monday, not sure- is there any way you could meet me there to save some time explaining to the staff? Or is there somewhere I can pop in, leave it and dash off? I have a plan that means you may be able to pick up the collar at the same time. It will be from just outside Oundle at Lilford Marina Need to make a call tomorrow
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 20:01:46 GMT
Ok I'll have the engine as you will be wanting a slightly quieter one with a bigger alternator.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 20:14:49 GMT
The Simploo costs about £350 ... I suspect he's kind of committed already. Rog Thats fair enough, I just wouldn't be too quick to chuck away a Thetford ... the funnel and pipe on the simploo looks a bit of a nightmare with regard to cleanliness (although I suppose cheap enough to keep replacing) and one episode of mildy explosive liquid s*** wont be pleasant around the little trap door space when its open, too many corners to pollute but since Ive no experience of using one I shouldn't really judge. But if you have a family member with a garage then I'd keep the Thetford till you are sure. Do you realise you could sell it for around £250? ...even in a year or so if you decide the simploo is still the bees bums you would earn something selling the Thetford.
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