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Post by Trina on Sept 25, 2020 21:14:25 GMT
Yes Vince,I also heard that.What the hell happened ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 21:21:58 GMT
Maybe it was not his gun.
ETA yes it was .
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 25, 2020 23:33:12 GMT
Just listened to a touching eulogy about the deceased officer on the BBC. It was very detailed, must have taken a lot of research by the BBC.
Meanwhile: We only know that the perpetrator was male and 23 years old. A criminal being young and male, both these area are 'safe' for the BBC to report. We know the name of the deceased, but we don't know the name of the alleged perpetrator. Why is this, when someone who is arrested on suspicion of any crime in Britain may have his or her details circulated, we might wonder? Especially when more than a few people have had their lives destroyed by spurious claims that the BBC, and all other news resources, are more than delighted to publish.
Apparently anonymity is bad, because if you don't publish a suspect's name, it lessens the possibility of other victims coming forward, who may have also been victims of the alleged perpetrator. In this case, if anyone had been shot, it would most likely have already come to the attention of the local police force. If not, if the body had been concealed, Fred West style, publishing the name would have been of no use, the victim wouldn't be listening.
So, what is going on here?
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Post by thebfg on Sept 26, 2020 1:10:11 GMT
It will definitely lead to changes, questions have to be asked about how a police officer can be shot in the custody suite by a handcuffed alleged drug dealer.
You have to wonder what the suspect thought was going to happen afterwards.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 26, 2020 5:32:04 GMT
My thoughts:
I am supposed to be instantly saddened by the death of a policeman whom I did not know. Yes, just terrible if he was a nice chap and didn't deserve it, and all that retirement gone to waste. No nice, work-conscientious, helpful, friendly person should ever have to face such a violent and shocking death. However, there are some not-so-nice people who, it could be said, deserve some payback for their downright nasty treatment of other people. Anyone remember Sergeant Gary Brown and his minions shouting "We are the Police, Go home!" ?! Who wants jumped-up Nazis like him on our streets? Not to mention the nice folk at all the private parking 'fines' companies.
Looking at the newspapers this morning, I notice readers' comments aren't allowed on this news item! Why ever not? And then there's this 'open to translation' journalism:
"suspect with hands behind his back in handcuffs" "fired shots from revolver which he had stuffed down his trousers" "pulled gun from his trousers"
Well, that's a neat Houdini-style trick! You got your hands tied up behind your back, yet you can put one into a trouser pocket, pull it out, and raise it to fire it accurately?
"The suspect is believed to be autistic and of Sri Lankan origin" - why 'believed'? Where are the facts? He's been on the 'watch list' for some time already!
"the officers failed to find the small firearm as it had been well concealed and would have been recovered only with an intimate strip search and body cavity check." - I understand failing to find the weapon, it was concealed... but why the 'body cavity check' if it was only in his trousers pocket??!!
Details are being hidden here. Once again.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 26, 2020 5:48:14 GMT
It will definitely lead to changes, questions have to be asked about how a police officer can be shot in the custody suite by a handcuffed alleged drug dealer. You have to wonder what the suspect thought was going to happen afterwards. Did the shooter know Matiu Ratana personally? Perhaps there had been something going on between them? Perhaps in this case the '23 year old Sri Lankan' was just out for revenge, and didn't care about any consequences. He apparently shot himself afterwards (Ratana shot 5 times, 6th bullet for himself?).. but does anybody know which part of himself he shot? Only when we have the complete and honest history of this unfortunate sequence of events will we be able to judge. The Hand-Wringing Virtual-Signalling "shame on you for saying that!" Brigade themselves will very quickly forget about Matiu, and will tomorrow be back to discussing Boating-of-the-Day.
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Post by bodger on Sept 26, 2020 7:02:28 GMT
My thoughts: I am supposed to be instantly saddened by the death of a policeman whom I did not know. Yes, just terrible if he was a nice chap and didn't deserve it, and all that retirement gone to waste. No nice, work-conscientious, helpful, friendly person should ever have to face such a violent and shocking death. However, there are some not-so-nice people who, it could be said, deserve some payback for their downright nasty treatment of other people. Anyone remember Sergeant Gary Brown and his minions shouting "We are the Police, Go home!" ?! Who wants jumped-up Nazis like him on our streets? Not to mention the nice folk at all the private parking 'fines' companies. you haven't redeemed yourself by that out of context crap.
give it a rest - if you are so addicted to this forum that you cannot shut up for a while then you need professional help.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 26, 2020 7:11:08 GMT
It seems bizarre enough that somebody with their hands cuffed behind their back can shoot another person, but how on earth could they then shoot themselves in such a way as to end up in a critical condition? I think there is a lot, lot more to this story yet to come out.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 26, 2020 7:14:03 GMT
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Post by Jim on Sept 26, 2020 9:03:46 GMT
Turns out the perpetrator was autistic. Tradition here says we have to blame and pillory all autistic people for the crime, they are all the same, that type of person, after all! Now, who here is on the spectrum?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 9:04:35 GMT
It will definitely lead to changes, questions have to be asked about how a police officer can be shot in the custody suite by a handcuffed alleged drug dealer. You have to wonder what the suspect thought was going to happen afterwards. Did the shooter know Matiu Ratana personally? Perhaps there had been something going on between them? Perhaps in this case the '23 year old Sri Lankan' was just out for revenge, and didn't care about any consequences. He apparently shot himself afterwards (Ratana shot 5 times, 6th bullet for himself?).. but does anybody know which part of himself he shot? Only when we have the complete and honest history of this unfortunate sequence of events will we be able to judge. The Hand-Wringing Virtual-Signalling "shame on you for saying that!" Brigade themselves will very quickly forget about Matiu, and will tomorrow be back to discussing Boating-of-the-Day. You are a fucking idiot, plain and simple, if I ever see your boat I shall also tell you this to your face, no false smiles and waves.
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Post by lollygagger on Sept 26, 2020 9:32:58 GMT
Did the shooter know Matiu Ratana personally? Perhaps there had been something going on between them? Perhaps in this case the '23 year old Sri Lankan' was just out for revenge, and didn't care about any consequences. He apparently shot himself afterwards (Ratana shot 5 times, 6th bullet for himself?).. but does anybody know which part of himself he shot? Only when we have the complete and honest history of this unfortunate sequence of events will we be able to judge. The Hand-Wringing Virtual-Signalling "shame on you for saying that!" Brigade themselves will very quickly forget about Matiu, and will tomorrow be back to discussing Boating-of-the-Day. You are a fucking idiot, plain and simple, if I ever see your boat I shall also tell you this to your face, no false smiles and waves. Put him on ignore, as more and more people do rather than engage him his posts become less and less relevant to the flow of the threads. Already one can skip past most...unless someone quotes him, which thankfully as said, is an ever dwindling number.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 26, 2020 9:41:01 GMT
Turns out the perpetrator was autistic. Tradition here says we have to blame and pillory all autistic people for the crime, they are all the same, that type of person, after all! Now, who here is on the spectrum? Is that it, he was autistic, end of investigation, we all get on with our lives now?
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Post by Jim on Sept 26, 2020 10:22:30 GMT
Turns out the perpetrator was autistic. Tradition here says we have to blame and pillory all autistic people for the crime, they are all the same, that type of person, after all! Now, who here is on the spectrum? Is that it, he was autistic, end of investigation, we all get on with our lives now? No not at all, but why chose one trait over another? He was from Sri Lanka, was on the watch list.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 11:44:16 GMT
I counter Ricco‘s bet that he was black, with my bet that he was a brown asylum seeker with mental health issues. And the gold medal goes to...
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