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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 7:53:15 GMT
Oh, did you want names and addresses? That might be tricky. At this point I'd settle for sweeping generalisations
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 3, 2020 7:54:33 GMT
Yes it is a bit harsh, but if he lives, a lot more other people will die compared to if he dies. It is about eliminating one bad person to save many. I'm not entirely sure that is so. Trump appears, so far at least, to be far less warmongering than Obama or Bush, and has cut the number of troops deployed overseas. Hatred of Donald Trump seems to be largely a PC-driven lynch-mob mentality, and although there were large street protests when he visited the UK, there didn't seem to be a murmur about the state visit a few months earlier of Mohammed bin Salman, Crown Prince of a country where women are routinely executed for the crime of having been raped and where homosexuality also carries the death sentence. Most of the animosity towards Trump which comes from the liberal left seems to be based on his opposition to illegal immigration, but to be honest I would sooner the UK took a firmer stance on this. I agree about the Saudis, but there are two differences one being America is far more dangerous than Saudi, and two that MBS is bringing about some positive changes to his country (moving in the right direction, albeit from a pretty bad starting point) whereas Trump is moving his country in the wrong direction. My animosity to Trump is far wider than his stance on illegal immigration. But on the other hand since the USA came into existence due to illegal immigration, it does seem a bit rich!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 7:58:39 GMT
Personal insults aside ... to wish for the death of another person is rather harsh. No matter what kind of unpleasant buffoon 'the Donald' is there are very much worse individuals in the world ... and there are good people who are sadly dieing ... until we have the power to grant life, perhaps we shouldn't be wishing for death for others Rog Yes it is a bit harsh, but if he lives, a lot more other people will die compared to if he dies. It is about eliminating one bad person to save many. You're going downhill at quite a rapid rate.. Hope it's not health related.
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Post by kris on Oct 3, 2020 8:00:40 GMT
I'm no trump supporter but he's the only American president in living memory who has neither started a large scale international war, carried out an atrocity against his own people nor set up the economy for decades of despair. If anyone deserves to die it's Blair rather than Trump. Obama carried out atrocities in the US? Also you should read about what Donald authorised in the Black Hills recently. Exactly, plus sending federal police into cities that don’t want them there. If you look at the footage from Portland you would think americas second civil war has started. Trump is dangerous because he is a distraction technique. Keep looking at the orange man with funny hair direct all your ire towards him. While we just step up the rape and destruction of the natural world, to squeeze the last bit of profit out of it. Before we all die, because our bio sphere can’t support us anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 8:06:25 GMT
A large part of Trump's desire to exit the Paris Climate Agreement and step-up gas production has a lot to do with where his money is invested. In fact this seems to drive all his decisions. Still, it probably won't make much difference in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 8:09:38 GMT
It seems ironic to me, not to mention rather unpleasant, that an intelligent person should wish for the death of another because they are a bad person.
Surely the POTUS is a symbol of the state of the USA rather than the cause of it ... the ground swell of support he received to become president may be more indicative of the state of the nation ... it will be interesting to see if he achieves a second term or if all the 'breast beating' and 'not in my name' protests actually count for naught.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 3, 2020 8:11:10 GMT
I think a large factor in the loathing of Donald Trump by the left is based on the fact that he is popular with the working class, a social class despised by left-wingers the world over. My own prediction is that Trump will be re-elected for a second term.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 8:15:59 GMT
He will get a second term.
This Covid story reminds me of the film "Wag the Dog" he will get ill and recover and gain sympathy votes from it.
Although he is terrible in general he is of course just a puppet and a diversion. A bit like our Boris. It's not a fluke we have these people in charge.
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Post by kris on Oct 3, 2020 8:17:41 GMT
A large part of Trump's desire to exit the Paris Climate Agreement and step-up gas production has a lot to do with where his money is invested. In fact this seems to drive all his decisions. Still, it probably won't make much difference in the end. It is amazing how he is getting away with introducing policy that benefits himself and his businesses directly. Isn’t that called vested interests no one really seems to comment on it in america. If he loses he’s not going to recognise the vote and challenge it legally. He is just not going to let go of the power. I still wouldn’t wish him dead by the way, just maybe impaired in some major way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 8:26:28 GMT
Wouldn't ?
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Post by Jim on Oct 3, 2020 8:28:01 GMT
While it is very tempting, I don't wish he dies, just intubated for a few months, that would help the world a lot. I hope I don't upset the resident Friend of Trump. Of course the Trump Team have been masters of their own downfall, not wearing masks, hugging, encouraging close contact in rallies etc etc. Anti maskers take note!
It could be Gaia wreaking her revenge though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 8:32:43 GMT
I don't think anyone is a 'friend of Trump' ... merely pointing out that he represents a ground swell of American opinion.
The issue surely is that the majority supported him ... and may well do so again.
He is a sympton not the illness.
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Post by Jim on Oct 3, 2020 8:37:35 GMT
I don't think anyone is a 'friend of Trump' ... merely pointing out that he represents a ground swell of American opinion. The issue surely is that the majority supported him ... and may well do so again. He is a sympton not the illness. Rog Ah "the majority" that mythical beast used to justify all sorts of wrongdoings. Trump didn't have a majority of voters. It was a sneak in, with the electoral college. Far from a majority of the populace. Now where have I heard this before? A "majority" believing lies and leading us to disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 8:40:03 GMT
The majority didn't actually vote for him that's what is slightly odd about it. More people voted for his opponent. I didn't realise they had such a low turnout in America.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 3, 2020 8:40:47 GMT
I'm no trump supporter but he's the only American president in living memory who has neither started a large scale international war, carried out an atrocity against his own people nor set up the economy for decades of despair. If anyone deserves to die it's Blair rather than Trump. Obama carried out atrocities in the US? Also you should read about what Donald authorised in the Black Hills recently. No but he started a war whereas Trump has withdrawn many troups from overseas operations. It was that nice, moderate, left thinking liberal Clinton who ordered the slaughter of his own people.
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